Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)

[algy]

Very decent signing, and as others have said a bright spot on an otherwise depressing transfer window.

[Demitri_C]

So there is a buy back and sell on clause. 🤦‍♂️

The problem is the buy back clause  and what is the fee. Then if its not liverpool we pay them a percentage of our profit. Im curious  to see what the figures are fir this.


If it in 2 seasons a club like Liverpool are buying him back then he will have done incredibly well for us. Just treat it then like they have paid us to loan him for a couple of seasons. You have to wheel and deal in our situation.

If the buy back is something  like 70-80m ill be happy with that. Feels like if he does well he just ends up back there so we did all the developing and leaves us in a hole.

The one positive is we get at least two seasons out of him as he isnt a permanent until the sumemr so they can't activate it until at least summer of 2027.

[adrenachrome]

He is a very good player, no doubt.
Many Liverpool supporters have posted that they they are sad to see him leave, in the same way that we spoke of JJ's departure.
Let's hope that Unai can do his magic.

[FatSam]

Presumably the buy-back clause is the reason for the lower fee than they were looking for earlier in the window. I’d be surprised if they wanted him back for their squad, but there’s a risk that they might want him back to sell-on for a higher fee.

[PaulWinch again]

So there is a buy back and sell on clause. 🤦‍♂️

The problem is the buy back clause  and what is the fee. Then if its not liverpool we pay them a percentage of our profit. Im curious  to see what the figures are fir this.


If it in 2 seasons a club like Liverpool are buying him back then he will have done incredibly well for us. Just treat it then like they have paid us to loan him for a couple of seasons. You have to wheel and deal in our situation.

If the buy back is something  like 70-80m ill be happy with that. Feels like if he does well he just ends up back there so we did all the developing and leaves us in a hole.

The one positive is we get at least two seasons out of him as he isnt a permanent until the sumemr so they can't activate it until at least summer of 2027.

I would assume there is no way it’ll be that high.

[Dave]

Presumably the buy-back clause is the reason for the lower fee than they were looking for earlier in the window. I’d be surprised if they wanted him back for their squad, but there’s a risk that they might want him back to sell-on for a higher fee.

But if he's so good that the scenario above plays out, we just pay them the difference to remove it.

[PeterWithesShin]

It will most likely be 50-60m. We aren't going to agree to one that doesn't give us a profit, or at least we shouldn't be doing that.

[darren woolley]

Good signing welcome to Aston Villa Harvey.

[eamonn]

Does a buy-back come with any protection for us? ie If the player wants to stay at Villa does he still have to return to his "parent" if they want him at the pre-agreed amount?

[olaftab]

I think buyback kicks in if we want to sell the player. Knowing who it is only likely to kick in if Barca or Real come for him.

[wince]

Before we worry about the clauses and Liverpool buying him back, lets see how he works out for us first. Remember some of us were worrying lego hair was going to be poached by Liverpool to be their new manager.....

[pauliewalnuts]

Very much not a fan of the buy back clause but I suspect it’s influenced the price we got him for.

I also get the “if Liverpool want him back that’ll mean he’s done very well” etc etc but I also remember the concern around Douglas Luiz, who had done very well, and his buy back clause.

[cdbearsfan]

Does a buy-back come with any protection for us? ie If the player wants to stay at Villa does he still have to return to his "parent" if they want him at the pre-agreed amount?

Yes. All will have been agreed. If they want him back and pay the price, he's theirs. Just like when we re-signed Philogene.

[Somniloquism]

I think buyback kicks in if we want to sell the player. Knowing who it is only likely to kick in if Barca or Real come for him.

There are several ways they are normally setout. First refusual like we did with Philogene, forced buy-back on certain conditions (Archer) and, as with the Citeh one with Luiz, Liverpool can purchase him back for a set fee for upto 2(?) seasons.

[PeterWithesShin]

For all the 'worry' over Luiz nothing came of it. With Elliot being more expensive it makes them buying him back pretty unlikely unless they either go to shit or he's amazing for us. I expect him to be good for us, but not good enough they'll want him in their squad or his value has passed the buyback amount, and they won't go to shit, sadly.