Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[olaftab]

Tyrone Mings gives the opposition 10 minute warning followed by body shape and style to indicate exactly where his 50 yarder is going. Trouble is he’s accurate with his pass.

[dave.woodhall]

Monchi and Vidagany have blood on their hands for the shambolic way they've managed our transfer dealings.  Get rid of them.

That's a pretty tasteless way of describing things, even in the heat of a poor defeat.

Not really.  The message they've given all summer is "everyone's for sale".  Can't think of any other club who have a sporting director who actively tries to sell its best players for the smallest price possible.  No wonder the morale of the squad is so low.  They're both incompetent clowns and they need calling out for it.

You are very, very boring.

[JUAN PABLO]

wouldnt be suprised Malen asks to go .

Onana  £50 million..  christ almighty.

take £80 million for rogers now.

[Olneythelonely]

I don’t think selling our players is the answer

[Paul.S]

Only the second game of the season but this shows we are desperate for a few in.
We still can’t defend and just have to start playing with pace as we did when Emery first arrived.
Torres is a good ball player but is too slow and doesn’t have the strength to deal with the physical side of the English game.
We are too physically and mentally weak in the centre of midfield. We need someone in there who will stand up away from home because that’s still our weakness. Onana has to be that man now, he has to stand up and use his size.
Rogers needs to move inside where he has the space to do what he does best but the main thing is pace out wide. The likes of Asensio won’t make a difference if we play at a snails pace and have 11 men to get through.
There needs to be a tactical rethink and quickly and I’m sure there will be. This is not working and a class coach such as Emery will surely see this.
I could go on but I don’t think there was a decent performance out there today.

[brontebilly]

I think we are in trouble, not maybe in terms of relegation but definitely in terms of being competitive at the top end of the division. Everything seems a bit off, body language from key players, team selection, even fitness levels. A few posters have said about the season being one too many for a few players and sadly there's definitely signs of it. A championship standard Brentford and strikerless Newcastle are two soft fixtures to start off and we look lifeless

No idea what the game plan is, playing for set pieces is odd. Emery struggling like many of the players.

Martinez 4 - no fault for goal but far too soft for their disallowed goal. Sharp off line once in second half
Cash 6 - battled hard, no issues defensively  and got in around the back once in second half
Mings 4 - most of the forum wanted him tried with Torres and got their answer within 15 mins as Mings went miles from his station. Caught again in second half drifting over. Cannot play RCB
Torres 2 - distribution gone to pot, hopeless for their goal. Getting worse if anything, would move him on.
Digne 4 - legs look gone. Has done well for us but really struggled
Onana 1 - our record signing is a complete fraud
Kamara/Tielemans 6 - thought Tielemans at least got us playing when he dropped back but stamina was suspect last 20
McGinn 6 - best player in first half, not as prominent when moved inside but wouldn't have taken him off
Rogers 3 - I fear Emery has created a bit of monster here, everything just stunk with him but played entire game
Buendia 4 - took a while to get into it but got on some nice balls, thought it was a ridiculous decision to sub the sub and finish his career with us
Watkins 4 - are his legs gone? Just nothing

Malen and Maatsen were rubbish. Bogarde is limited. Guessand at least looked like a footballer.

Emery 3 - needs help in the transfer market but recent signings have been tragic really. Team selection was rotten with no balance in the team again. Signs of an unhappy camp for the first time.

[kippaxvilla2]

Let’s not give this anything other than the verdict it deserves. This is almost certainly going to be one of the poorer teams we face this season and we looked slow, ponderous and clueless in the final third.  Unless there’s a fairly dramatic swathe of incomings in the final week then we are finishing bottom half. 

Awful awful performance.

[andyh]

As a club, are we starting to feel a bit sorry for ourselves?
Financial woes, bottling cup semi finals and critical last games of the season, selling ‘our own’, can’t buy any quality.

Are we a club that’s down in the dumps ?

[villadelph]

Monchi and Vidagany have blood on their hands for the shambolic way they've managed our transfer dealings.  Get rid of them.

That's a pretty tasteless way of describing things, even in the heat of a poor defeat.

Not really.  The message they've given all summer is "everyone's for sale".  Can't think of any other club who have a sporting director who actively tries to sell its best players for the smallest price possible.  No wonder the morale of the squad is so low.  They're both incompetent clowns and they need calling out for it.

That’s just farcical. Bouba signed a new deal, Ollie, Emi and Morgan are not for sale and we’ve rebuffed interest from around the league, and we’ve brought in JJ’s replacement already.

Up the meds

[PeterWithesShin]

It's a cunning long term plan, the fewer games we win the fewer win bonuses we have to pay, helps with PSR.

[Nev]

Buendia wasn't the answer 12 months ago and he's not now.

Stale. That creeping fear that we've peaked with this Manager increases and I hope I'm totally wrong but throw the financial restrictions into the mix and we don't have the option to freshen things up.

And a Sunday evening ko against Palace next up. Fucking hell.

[Chris_Jephcott]

Urgh.

That was awful. Worrying start…

And next… Crystal Palace. Chuffing brilliant.

[RamboandBruno]

Heavy sigh.
Nothing wrong with criticising Emery for the last two weeks, but a few posts hinting at the end coming etc are hugely premature.
Anyway, Blues performance, nobody comes out with any credit, other than Guessand, who at least tried to take players on and make things happen.
Emery’s Villa has always like to pass it out from the back, but today was so square, no movement, leading to endless passing sideways in front of their back four, or worse a mis placed long ball from Torres, or Mings dawdling on the ball for what felt like a year with minutes left.

I think Emery is trying to solve the defensive frailties of last year by making us more compact in the middle, but it is killing any creativity. If anyone thinks Asensio doesnt improve that team!
He absolutely has to start either one of Malen or Guessand and sacrifice Onana or McGinn next week, depending on Kamara’s injury.
Another week avoiding MOTD.

Other than that, someone else said it but Beundia flutters around and then largely loses the ball and Rogers awful. Not only no attacking threat, aimless passes and knocked off the ball that actually put us in trouble a few times.

[john2710]

A lot of over reaction on here, but ever since the semi-final & no show at Old Trafford, everything around the club seems flat.

The pre-season was flat, our recruitment has been flat. Even the new kit looks like last season's.

The team selection & subs over the 2 games has been questionable. If we can't refresh the players, we need to refresh how we play.

Everything is just so predictable.

[BC Villain]

Monchi and Vidagany have blood on their hands for the shambolic way they've managed our transfer dealings.  Get rid of them.

That's a pretty tasteless way of describing things, even in the heat of a poor defeat.

Not really.  The message they've given all summer is "everyone's for sale".  Can't think of any other club who have a sporting director who actively tries to sell its best players for the smallest price possible.  No wonder the morale of the squad is so low.  They're both incompetent clowns and they need calling out for it.

You are very, very boring.

And unfortunately at the moment so is our team