Quote from: Smirker on Today at 07:27:00 PMScoring goals is his primary job. He's a striker. That's their job. Especially when he's the lone striker.But that’s where you’re most wrong. I don’t want him scoring 9 more if it means the team scores 10 fewer overall.
Scoring goals is his primary job. He's a striker. That's their job. Especially when he's the lone striker.
It's other people who bring assists and running a lot into it as a defence for his poor return, not me. I'm not ignoring anything. It's a discussion about goalscoring, not his all round game.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on Today at 07:15:34 PMQuote from: Smirker on Today at 07:14:06 PM"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals. More or less 1 in 3.Yes, frankly, given the other stuff he does too - and I don't care if you think that doesn't come into it, it should.That's a no.The discussion from here should be, 'do you think his all round game makes up for his poor goal return?'. That is at least a more reasonable discussion to have. It shouldn't be, 'his goal return is good enough because he also has assists and runs around a lot'. The latter doesn't mean the former is good enough.
Quote from: Smirker on Today at 07:14:06 PM"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals. More or less 1 in 3.Yes, frankly, given the other stuff he does too - and I don't care if you think that doesn't come into it, it should.
"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
Quote from: Dave on Today at 07:25:23 PMQuote from: Smirker on Today at 07:14:06 PMDo you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.I think that's where you depart from pretty much everybody else, you seem to think that if a team scores forty and the striker scores twenty, that striker is better than one who scores fifteen in a team that scores fifty. Which is silly.I would think that the one who scored 20 goals has a better goal record than the one who scored 15. Which would be fact?Obviously I can understand the wider point of contribution to the team as a whole but that's not what I'm discussing.
Quote from: Smirker on Today at 07:14:06 PMDo you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.I think that's where you depart from pretty much everybody else, you seem to think that if a team scores forty and the striker scores twenty, that striker is better than one who scores fifteen in a team that scores fifty. Which is silly.
Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
Quote from: Olneythelonely on Today at 07:28:59 PMQuote from: Smirker on Today at 07:27:00 PMScoring goals is his primary job. He's a striker. That's their job. Especially when he's the lone striker.But that’s where you’re most wrong. I don’t want him scoring 9 more if it means the team scores 10 fewer overall.Well It wouldn't would it, if he scores 9 more it would mean the team has scored 9 more.
Talking of not scoring, anyone watching Kairat v Celtic, no goals after 180 mins so far...dreadful stuff
Quote from: Chip Butty 111 on Today at 07:41:39 PMTalking of not scoring, anyone watching Kairat v Celtic, no goals after 180 mins so far...dreadful stuffIt’s really terrible stuff. The Lisbon Lions will be spinning in their graves.
Quote from: Chip Butty 111 on Today at 07:41:39 PMTalking of not scoring, anyone watching Kairat v Celtic, no goals after 180 mins so far...dreadful stuffWhat side is it on?