Europa League 2025-26

[dave.woodhall]

Couple of articles covering Amsterdam for anyone wanting them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/13/wednesday-briefing-how-fan-violence-became-a-political-football

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans

Even if this were 100% true, it still doesn't justify the ruling today. Maccabi are not under UEFA sanction and there is no intelligence to suggest their fans are planning to instigate anything. This is a purely domestic issue and UEFA will have to respond, even though the club has done nothing wrong.

Still in UKIP are you?

[cdbearsfan]

Yeah, UEFA won't care. The UK government is more of an issue. I wouldn't even be surprised to see Trump getting involved though, and somehow the authorities being forced into a grovelling U-turn with resignations all over the place.

[PeterWithesShin]

Couple of articles covering Amsterdam for anyone wanting them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/13/wednesday-briefing-how-fan-violence-became-a-political-football

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans

Even if this were 100% true, it still doesn't justify the ruling today. Maccabi are not under UEFA sanction and there is no intelligence to suggest their fans are planning to instigate anything. This is a purely domestic issue and UEFA will have to respond, even though the club has done nothing wrong.

Which parts do you think aren't true?

And Uefa have already stated

Uefa told Reuters: "In all cases, the competent local authorities remain responsible for decisions related to the safety and security of matches taking place on their territory."

[andyh]

Couple of articles covering Amsterdam for anyone wanting them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/13/wednesday-briefing-how-fan-violence-became-a-political-football

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans

……………Maccabi are not under UEFA sanction and there is no intelligence to suggest their fans are planning to instigate anything…………

You might want to retract that.

Whilst not specifically saying MTA, it appears there is intelligence.

‘West Midlands Police said the game had been classified as high risk and that it had concerns about its ability to deal with potential protests at the match at Villa Park.
It said this was based on current intelligence and previous incidents, including "violent clashes and hate crime offences" between Ajax and Maccabi Tel Aviv fans before a match in Amsterdam in November 2024’

[AV82EC]

Couple of articles covering Amsterdam for anyone wanting them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/13/wednesday-briefing-how-fan-violence-became-a-political-football

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans

Even if this were 100% true, it still doesn't justify the ruling today. Maccabi are not under UEFA sanction and there is no intelligence to suggest their fans are planning to instigate anything. This is a purely domestic issue and UEFA will have to respond, even though the club has done nothing wrong.

Still in UKIP are you?

I’d imagine he’s fucked off to Reform by now.

[pauliewalnuts]

This is extremely predictable.

As some of us pointed out as soon as the draw was made, but got shouted down.

*clambers upon fragile moral high horse*

[cdbearsfan]

This is extremely predictable.

As some of us pointed out as soon as the draw was made, but got shouted down.

*clambers upon fragile moral high horse*

Toronto seems to have won this one (at least in terms of who was first). I predicted behind closed doors (not in the bit I am quoting).

Home Tel Aviv FFS

Would this be behind closed doors?

I don't see why it would be.

If anything it will be home fans only if it’s a security concern.

[SamTheMouse]

It's incredibly frustrating reading the dopey comments from people who know fuck all about football assuming the Maccabi fans are all angelic choirboys as opposed to having a sizeable contingent of racist hooligans.

And blaming Villa rather than WMP for the decision, because apparently they can't read.

[dave.woodhall]

I don't know how this is going to pan out but I do know that the Villa will be the bad guys and a lot of very nasty people will get involved.

[Crown Hill]

Can’t see this decision standing for long.

Sun Pol Ed now reporting urgent meetings in Downing Street to ensure Maccabi supporters can attend. Starmer furious.

Not even sure this decision will last until tomorrow.

If violence had caused the decision it would be by UEFA. That it’s by Birmingham Council’s SAG means it’s about public safety. In all my years following Villa I don’t recall Millwall, Leeds, Chelsea, Blues, Rangers, Celtic, Cov being banned.

[DaveD]

Couple of articles covering Amsterdam for anyone wanting them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/13/wednesday-briefing-how-fan-violence-became-a-political-football

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans

Even if this were 100% true, it still doesn't justify the ruling today. Maccabi are not under UEFA sanction and there is no intelligence to suggest their fans are planning to instigate anything. This is a purely domestic issue and UEFA will have to respond, even though the club has done nothing wrong.

Still in UKIP are you?

Not since 2017.

Unsure how that's relevant to my argument.

[cdbearsfan]

Seems pretty inevitable that Tommy Ten Names will try to capitalise and that, shamefully, plenty of Villa fans will take his side.

[PeterWithesShin]

No chance scum will use this as a way to spread hate. Oh.

Tommy Robinson 🇬🇧
@TRobinsonNewEra


Welcome to "Modern Britain."

Aston Villa released a statement saying no away fans may attend the UEFA Europa League match with Maccabi Tel Aviv as they can't guarantee their safety from baying mobs of islamists and commies in England's second largest city, Birmingham.

[DaveD]

Couple of articles covering Amsterdam for anyone wanting them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/13/wednesday-briefing-how-fan-violence-became-a-political-football

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans

Even if this were 100% true, it still doesn't justify the ruling today. Maccabi are not under UEFA sanction and there is no intelligence to suggest their fans are planning to instigate anything. This is a purely domestic issue and UEFA will have to respond, even though the club has done nothing wrong.

Still in UKIP are you?

I’d imagine he’s fucked off to Reform by now.

Nope. Never been a member of Reform. I'm politically neutral now, in as much as a plague on all their houses covers it.

[PeterWithesShin]

Seems pretty inevitable that Tommy Ten Names will try to capitalise and that, shamefully, plenty of Villa fans will take his side.

Spooky, as I was doing my post when you posted.