Europa League 2025-26

[dave.woodhall]

Couple of articles covering Amsterdam for anyone wanting them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/13/wednesday-briefing-how-fan-violence-became-a-political-football

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans

Even if this were 100% true, it still doesn't justify the ruling today. Maccabi are not under UEFA sanction and there is no intelligence to suggest their fans are planning to instigate anything. This is a purely domestic issue and UEFA will have to respond, even though the club has done nothing wrong.

Still in UKIP are you?

Not since 2017.

Unsure how that's relevant to my argument.

Because it's a bit of a coincidence that you've come on here out of nowhere defending Maccabi supporters and talking about "Banning Jews for their own safety" when it wasn't about that at all.   

[Percy McCarthy]

Couple of articles covering Amsterdam for anyone wanting them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/13/wednesday-briefing-how-fan-violence-became-a-political-football

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans

Even if this were 100% true, it still doesn't justify the ruling today. Maccabi are not under UEFA sanction and there is no intelligence to suggest their fans are planning to instigate anything. This is a purely domestic issue and UEFA will have to respond, even though the club has done nothing wrong.

Where do you get your intelligence reports?

[pauliewalnuts]

Couple of articles covering Amsterdam for anyone wanting them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/13/wednesday-briefing-how-fan-violence-became-a-political-football

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans

Even if this were 100% true, it still doesn't justify the ruling today. Maccabi are not under UEFA sanction and there is no intelligence to suggest their fans are planning to instigate anything. This is a purely domestic issue and UEFA will have to respond, even though the club has done nothing wrong.

Where do you get your intelligence reports?

Directly from his puckering ring piece.

[tomd2103]

Couple of articles covering Amsterdam for anyone wanting them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/13/wednesday-briefing-how-fan-violence-became-a-political-football

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans

Even if this were 100% true, it still doesn't justify the ruling today. Maccabi are not under UEFA sanction and there is no intelligence to suggest their fans are planning to instigate anything. This is a purely domestic issue and UEFA will have to respond, even though the club has done nothing wrong.

Still in UKIP are you?

Not since 2017.

Unsure how that's relevant to my argument.

Because it's a bit of a coincidence that you've come on here out of nowhere defending Maccabi supporters and talking about "Banning Jews for their own safety" when it wasn't about that at all.

Do you know who would have been a part of the Safety Advisory Group who made the decision Dave? 

[dave.woodhall]

https://sgsa.org.uk/regulatory-support/safety-certification/safety-advisory-groups/

[adrenachrome]

I don't know how this is going to pan out but I do know that the Villa will be the bad guys and a lot of very nasty people will get involved.

Yes. It has been carnage on X.

Most of it from the usual suspects, but I was surprised to see Johnny Gould saying the club should immediately reverse the decision, when we didn't make it.

[dave.woodhall]

I don't know how this is going to pan out but I do know that the Villa will be the bad guys and a lot of very nasty people will get involved.

Yes. It has been carnage on X.

Most of it from the usual suspects, but I was surprised to see Johnny Gould saying the club should immediately reverse the decision, when we didn't make it.

You're surprised that Johnny Gould talks shite?

[adrenachrome]

I don't know how this is going to pan out but I do know that the Villa will be the bad guys and a lot of very nasty people will get involved.

Yes. It has been carnage on X.

Most of it from the usual suspects, but I was surprised to see Johnny Gould saying the club should immediately reverse the decision, when we didn't make it.

You're surprised that Johnny Gould talks shite?

My bad.

[PeterWithesShin]

Nick Timothy MP
@NJ_Timothy

Welcome to modern Britain.

Away fans from Israel banned from Villa Park because the police cannot guarantee their safety in Birmingham.

I am sad, angry and ashamed. #avfc

[DaveD]

Couple of articles covering Amsterdam for anyone wanting them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/13/wednesday-briefing-how-fan-violence-became-a-political-football

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans

Even if this were 100% true, it still doesn't justify the ruling today. Maccabi are not under UEFA sanction and there is no intelligence to suggest their fans are planning to instigate anything. This is a purely domestic issue and UEFA will have to respond, even though the club has done nothing wrong.

Still in UKIP are you?

Not since 2017.

Unsure how that's relevant to my argument.

Because it's a bit of a coincidence that you've come on here out of nowhere defending Maccabi supporters and talking about "Banning Jews for their own safety" when it wasn't about that at all.

But it is about that. And it's absolutely ridiculous that you refuse to acknowledge it.

"There had also been dismay over a video from Asrar Rashid, the Birmingham-based cleric. “We will not show mercy to Maccabi Tel Aviv fans travelling to Birmingham for the Aston Villa FC match,” he said in a video shared on X."

"Telegraph Sport understands Palestine protest groups had made attempts to apply pressure on police in recent weeks.  On Oct 6, campaigners from Game Over Israel – backed by the likes of “death to the IDF” Glastonbury singer Bobby Vylan – say they sent  a report critical of Israel from the Hind Rajab Foundation to West Midlands Police."

And I'm suffering from whiplash that I was a far right Nazi not so long ago and now I'm getting slagged off for defending Jews.

[PeterWithesShin]

Jonny Gould is a twat waffle.

Not the MLB Jonny Gould though, he's sound.

[cdbearsfan]

Somebody sent a report critical of Israel? The evil bastards. That's me convinced.

[PeterWithesShin]

Jonny is going to buy a half and half scarf, that will show them!

[dave.woodhall]

It isn't all about that at all. It's about protestors and Maccabi supporters, both of whom could cause problems, as we've debated on here ever since the draw was made. And as no-one's called you anything, least of all a Nazi, there's no need to play the victim.

[PeterWithesShin]

What's annoying is that "Jews aren't safe in Birmingham" or "Jews aren't welcome in Birmingham" are the lines being peddled by so many unpleasant dimwits.