Villa up first on Newsnight. Must be a different producer to MOTD.
The saddest thing is that Aston Villa, our club, will be tarnished and denigrated by something the club has absolutely no control over.The thickest of the thick will hear ‘Aston Villa………ban……..Tel Aviv……..Isreal…….jews…………’ and the club will be cast as the bad apple.
I don't think our political leaders are helping the situation. What a shitshow.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on October 16, 2025, 08:34:59 PMHowever, this is the EL thread, so I'll stop derailing.Done the post count some good, mind.Hang on, the post count is aspirational, and other people can see it?! I assumed it was there to measure my shame.
However, this is the EL thread, so I'll stop derailing.Done the post count some good, mind.
The saddest thing is that Aston Villa, our club, will be tarnished and denigrated by something the club has absolutely no control over.The thickest of the thick will hear ‘Aston Villa………ban……..Tel Aviv……..Isreal…….jews…………’ and the club will be cast as the bad apple.Aston Villa didn’t ask to play against them.Aston Villa haven’t banned their fansAston Villa is not culpable in any way, shape or form, but our name will be dragged into the dirt because of outside influences and parties.We can’t win.
Quote from: andyh on October 16, 2025, 10:35:12 PMThe saddest thing is that Aston Villa, our club, will be tarnished and denigrated by something the club has absolutely no control over.The thickest of the thick will hear ‘Aston Villa………ban……..Tel Aviv……..Isreal…….jews…………’ and the club will be cast as the bad apple.Aston Villa didn’t ask to play against them.Aston Villa haven’t banned their fansAston Villa is not culpable in any way, shape or form, but our name will be dragged into the dirt because of outside influences and parties.We can’t win.Yep. Think the club need to get on the front foot and make this point loud and clear.
Quote from: tomd2103 on October 16, 2025, 11:05:13 PMQuote from: andyh on October 16, 2025, 10:35:12 PMThe saddest thing is that Aston Villa, our club, will be tarnished and denigrated by something the club has absolutely no control over.The thickest of the thick will hear ‘Aston Villa………ban……..Tel Aviv……..Isreal…….jews…………’ and the club will be cast as the bad apple.Aston Villa didn’t ask to play against them.Aston Villa haven’t banned their fansAston Villa is not culpable in any way, shape or form, but our name will be dragged into the dirt because of outside influences and parties.We can’t win.Yep. Think the club need to get on the front foot and make this point loud and clear. Probably best to just keep quiet, the press will have moved onto something else by the weekend. Any statement the club makes will piss some people off one way or the other.
Quote from: Meanwood Villa on October 16, 2025, 10:21:46 PMI don't think our political leaders are helping the situation. What a shitshow.What's going to happen now is, it'll be reversed, there will be loads of unpleasant scenes - and I don't care who is causing it - and there will be a lot of 'told you so' from WMP.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on October 16, 2025, 11:00:18 PMQuote from: Meanwood Villa on October 16, 2025, 10:21:46 PMI don't think our political leaders are helping the situation. What a shitshow.What's going to happen now is, it'll be reversed, there will be loads of unpleasant scenes - and I don't care who is causing it - and there will be a lot of 'told you so' from WMP.UEFA will step in and order it to be played elsewhere behind closed doors.You just know this will end up with all those of us who just want to turn up, have a pint and watch a match being the ones who get punished.
Couple of articles covering Amsterdam for anyone wanting themhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/13/wednesday-briefing-how-fan-violence-became-a-political-footballhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans