Aston Villa v Palace Post-Match Thread

[Nev]

Oh ar, we were partly to blame for being quiet. Fuck me, the money we spend,  the sacrifices we make, people of all ages craving that glory that has eluded us for a generation, up at all hours, travelling from all over the place and it's down to us?

Don't make me laugh. The players and the manager should be ashamed tonight. A pathetic and limp approach to a game we could have, and should have won. Fuck the season, fuck the club, it means nothing to me now because it meant nothing to them today.

[astonvilla82]

Once I saw Torres in the line up, I didn’t have much hope. Playing him basically means you are likely to concede at least once. Maybe he’s just not suited to the premier league.

Is it too old fashioned to judge strikers on how many they score and defenders on how many they keep out?

My thoughts exactly

[Legion]

Oh ar, we were partly to blame for being quiet. Fuck me, the money we spend,  the sacrifices we make, people of all ages craving that glory that has eluded us for a generation, up at all hours, travelling from all over the place and it's down to us?

Don't make me laugh. The players and the manager should be ashamed tonight. A pathetic and limp approach to a game we could have, and should have won.

Agreed.

[Halfway to Moseley]

I was at the game and our fans were fine before and at the start of the game. The atmosphere tailed off once everyone could see how we were going to play - it was pretty clear after about 5 minutes how the game was going to pan out.

[PaulWinch again]

Once I saw Torres in the line up, I didn’t have much hope. Playing him basically means you are likely to concede at least once. Maybe he’s just not suited to the premier league.

Is it too old fashioned to judge strikers on how many they score and defenders on how many they keep out?

My thoughts exactly

Well he’s played in 49 Premier League games, won 26, drawn 11, lost 12. So he probably can manage.

[Beard82]

What a shit show.Abjct.
Martinez 4 Best in the world?
Cash 2 Terrible
Konsa 5 Average
Torres 3 Gave the first goal, did not see him make 1 decent pass , Should have played Mings
Digne 5 Ok
Tielemans 5 looked like the games are catching up with him
Rogers 4 knackered
SJM 6 the only midfielder that showed up
Assensio 4 the game passed him by
Kamara 5 no where near his best
Watkins 5 No service no help.

Emery 3, Selection and tactics totally wrong.

I think this is about right - other than Konsa who I would have given a 4.  Needs more leadship in his game - and looked wobbly like he has most of this season.

[Beard82]

Oh ar, we were partly to blame for being quiet. Fuck me, the money we spend,  the sacrifices we make, people of all ages craving that glory that has eluded us for a generation, up at all hours, travelling from all over the place and it's down to us?

Don't make me laugh. The players and the manager should be ashamed tonight. A pathetic and limp approach to a game we could have, and should have won.

Agreed.

100%

[villa for life]

Once I saw Torres in the line up, I didn’t have much hope. Playing him basically means you are likely to concede at least once. Maybe he’s just not suited to the premier league.

Is it too old fashioned to judge strikers on how many they score and defenders on how many they keep out?

My thoughts exactly

Well he’s played in 49 Premier League games, won 26, drawn 11, lost 12. So he probably can manage.

Those aren’t actually great stats.

How many did villa concede in those games?

[olaftab]

As I posted on the Match thread at half time that we were done and game was gone. Yes it was only 1-0 but there was nothing, no life in our dead body and it was pointless poking sticks in it. A horrific performance where our CF didn't have a single shot at goal and they simply ripped through our middle and back at will.  A tactically inept a performance as I can remember This was Crystal fucking Palace. A team that had conceded 12 goals in their last 3 games. 

[Beard82]

Once I saw Torres in the line up, I didn’t have much hope. Playing him basically means you are likely to concede at least once. Maybe he’s just not suited to the premier league.

Is it too old fashioned to judge strikers on how many they score and defenders on how many they keep out?

My thoughts exactly

Well he’s played in 49 Premier League games, won 26, drawn 11, lost 12. So he probably can manage.

Those aren’t actually great stats.

How many did villa concede in those games?

Forfteen Percent of people know stats can prove or disprove anything (and I work in stats).   For me - the issue is that with what we've seen since Unai has come in - very few fans would have seen that line up and been pleased taht Pau was in over Ty.  It was the wrong call. 

[PaulWinch again]

They’re not that bad that’s better than a win every other game. I don’t know, but I think the point is he can clearly be part of a strong Premier League team.

[ChicagoLion]

Once I saw Torres in the line up, I didn’t have much hope. Playing him basically means you are likely to concede at least once. Maybe he’s just not suited to the premier league.

Is it too old fashioned to judge strikers on how many they score and defenders on how many they keep out?

My thoughts exactly

I had the same sinking feeling as the Arsenal cup final when I saw the selection.
As many have said, play that defence.

[Nev]

You can argue all you like about players, the whole approach was a disgrace. We didn't want it, they did.

Disgraceful.

[PaulWinch again]

Once I saw Torres in the line up, I didn’t have much hope. Playing him basically means you are likely to concede at least once. Maybe he’s just not suited to the premier league.

Is it too old fashioned to judge strikers on how many they score and defenders on how many they keep out?

My thoughts exactly

Well he’s played in 49 Premier League games, won 26, drawn 11, lost 12. So he probably can manage.

Those aren’t actually great stats.

How many did villa concede in those games?

Forfteen Percent of people know stats can prove or disprove anything (and I work in stats).   For me - the issue is that with what we've seen since Unai has come in - very few fans would have seen that line up and been pleased taht Pau was in over Ty.  It was the wrong call. 

Not sure how much truth there is to that. There might be something to it of late and for this specific game, but that doesn’t equate to Pau being a bad player or more important us not functioning as a team with him in it.

[London Villan]

Rogers was also dreadful, but looks knackered. He has needed to be rotated for the last few weeks them he may have been sharper today.