Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc.

[DC1874]

Night and day between start of last season and this one, reminds me of the bad old days under Doug or chancers like Sherwood/Lambert in the manager"s chair. We"ve become an irrelevance overnight and it's all down to shitting the bed V Palace and Newton Heath (the latter sucking over 100M from the coffers)

[kippaxvilla2]

Yeah seems odd that you can incur £1bn of debt to build a ground, and the debt not count, but the windfall for turnover do for the bugger ground.

Yes not something to relish.

[Beard82]

There is nothing wrong on financial controls on a conceptual level.

If there were no controls, Newcastle would be becoming the next Man City right now, imagine watching that happen.

Someone needs to stop clubs getting into loads of debt because based on years gone by, the clubs can’t often help themselves.

The problem is, the way it is currently set up seems to stop clubs from competing at the top level consistently whilst also having the frankly absurd side effect of making selling your home grown players more appealing- how nuts is that?

So how should it be set up so as to curb excesses but encourage clubs to grow?

I don’t know the answer to that.

It’s a bit like VAR - perfectly good idea but with dreadful implementation.

100%

Yup. It's rubbish, but it's tricky to come up with a fairer way. And this way is preferable to playing a game of "who has the richest owner" Top Trumps.

I think it just needs slightly larger budgets - and some kind of way to book against know future revenues (i.e. European qualification)

[Beard82]

And as below have said fairer rewards (i.e. Man City should earn more than us for getting less far in the CL), plus consideration of debts. 

[PaulWinch again]

Honestly I had assumed given the outgoings we might have seen the slightest bit of progress on signings by now.

[Dave]

There is nothing wrong on financial controls on a conceptual level.

If there were no controls, Newcastle would be becoming the next Man City right now, imagine watching that happen.

Someone needs to stop clubs getting into loads of debt because based on years gone by, the clubs can’t often help themselves.

The problem is, the way it is currently set up seems to stop clubs from competing at the top level consistently whilst also having the frankly absurd side effect of making selling your home grown players more appealing- how nuts is that?

So how should it be set up so as to curb excesses but encourage clubs to grow?

I don’t know the answer to that.

It’s a bit like VAR - perfectly good idea but with dreadful implementation.

100%

Yup. It's rubbish, but it's tricky to come up with a fairer way. And this way is preferable to playing a game of "who has the richest owner" Top Trumps.

I think it just needs slightly larger budgets - and some kind of way to book against know future revenues (i.e. European qualification)

Don't get me wrong, as a Villa fan I'd like the rules to be that we get to spend whatever we want and everyone else can't spend anything. But for everyone who isn't connected to our club "the precise set of circumstances that benefits Villa the most right now" and "the right way to govern football finances" aren't necessarily the same thing.

If we swapped places with say, Palace - the above scenario would benefit them and hinder us. Would you still think that it would be the right way to do it?

Or would The Right Thing To Do then be to stop billionaire owners just pumping in even more money and paying hundreds of millions more in wages, meaning the clubs without billionaire owners would still be able to compete?

[LeeS]

I understand the frustration with constantly talking about accounting and amortisation instead of football, but there is a solution. Don’t talk about it.

Remember 30 years ago when you just turned up in a Saturday and watched us play. Then you’d read the Argus (if we’d won) and watch MOTD (if we’d won) and then do it all again next week.

You don’t have to get into all this numbers and rules stuff if you don’t want it. Just watch the football and then do something else.

[kippaxvilla2]

I understand the frustration with constantly talking about accounting and amortisation instead of football, but there is a solution. Don’t talk about it.

Remember 30 years ago when you just turned up in a Saturday and watched us play. Then you’d read the Argus (if we’d won) and watch MOTD (if we’d won) and then do it all again next week.

You don’t have to get into all this numbers and rules stuff if you don’t want it. Just watch the football and then do something else.

Post form rate - Dismal.

[Tuscans]

🚨 NEW: Aston Villa have made an offer of around €15m for Marco Asensio — PSG want €20m. The clubs are no longer too far apart & are optimistic about a positive outcome.
@Tanziloic

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

It's always been about money. The first £100 transfer was in 1893 for Willy Groves from Smethwick to us. They moaned we had tapped him up so we promptly paid a £50 fine and then just as promptly secured our first league title.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Groves
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/aug/30/the-joy-of-six-record-transfers

[Tuscans]

🚨 NEW: Aston Villa have made an offer of around €15m for Marco Asensio — PSG want €20m. The clubs are no longer too far apart & are optimistic about a positive outcome.
@Tanziloic

Watching his highlights again he has something we missed

[Ads]

Come home Marco.

[Percy McCarthy]

I’m a bit weary of all this ‘we can’t compete’ talk. It’s very defeatist and not true IMO.

[Demitri_C]

How on earth are we covering his salary? Surely he is taking a pay cut?

[Ads]

I agree Percy. We're in a funk, but its a very shallow one. We're also playing a longer game and playing it better than most. Next season taps will open, season after we will have a bigger ground and on and on.