Aston Villa vs Tottenham post-match thread

[London Villan]

Ramsey always hits the keeper and Rogers normally puts it wide! Lots of practice please lads.

[AV84]

Being aware of where your team mates are occasionally wouldn't hurt either. Especially when they're in front of an open goal.

[Somniloquism]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. IF they had scored the goals, no one would be stating they should have squared. If they had squared and it was either cut-out or saved/missed, we would have been stating they should have taken it on themselves.

[brontebilly]

JJ is not a natural finisher, on replaying all his chances he kept his eyes on the ball all through the strike, he had no awareness of the positioning of the keeper and hit the ball straight at him. He did well in general play but he has to learn the art.

Didn't bother him v West Ham from the same position. Good that he's getting into those positions anyway.

[Gareth]

Of their squad i think I'd take ven der ven, Kulusevski, Bissouma (personal life aside) and possibly Bentancour.

Van der van and Kulusevski, maybe Porrow.

I think only Van der Ven would be a significant step up for us. The other three wouldn’t be. They’re no better than what we have already

Van der Ven if you can keep him fit, Kulusevski is class and Archie Gray will be a great player but will end up in midfield not filling in at the back like he has pretty much all season.  Boggles my head that their manager had Ben Davies on the bench who can play left centre back which would release Gray to play as a 6 with some mobility….guess I’m thinking too simplistic :-)

[Somniloquism]

Van der Ven if you can keep him fit, Kulusevski is class and Archie Gray will be a great player but will end up in midfield not filling in at the back like he has pretty much all season.  Boggles my head that their manager had Ben Davies on the bench who can play left centre back which would release Gray to play as a 6 with some mobility….guess I’m thinking too simplistic :-)

Not sure where his best position is. Leeds last season were playing him mostly at RB and apart from a couple of cameo subs at the start of the season, he has been employed right across the back 4 for Spurs as well.

[ADVILLAFAN]

I was surprised at how poor Gray's passing was. Expect him to struggle playing CB, but thought his passing would at least be good.

[LeeB]

I was surprised at how poor Gray's passing was. Expect him to struggle playing CB, but thought his passing would at least be good.

I've seen nothing when watching him even before at Leeds that made him stand out as the prospect people were talking about.

Leeds to a great line in hyping their youngsters to be fair to them.

[Somniloquism]

TBH he is only 18 and probably dropped into a bad position at Spurs. But £30mil does seem to be an example of overhype. I had a quick search of the most expensive teenagers in English football and he is in the middle of the top 10. Some names in there.

[paul_e]

That list is pretty shit really. Some of them are still very young so have room to improve but none of the older players there have justified what was paid.

[Gareth]

I was surprised at how poor Gray's passing was. Expect him to struggle playing CB, but thought his passing would at least be good.

He struggled on Sunday but he has probably played double the amount of games than was planned for him this season particularly the last couple of months when he has been at centre back with a pedestrian midfield in front of him.  He looks like a really good #6 or wide right prospect to me

[Dave]

I was surprised at how poor Gray's passing was. Expect him to struggle playing CB, but thought his passing would at least be good.

He struggled on Sunday but he has probably played double the amount of games than was planned for him this season particularly the last couple of months when he has been at centre back with a pedestrian midfield in front of him.  He looks like a really good #6 or wide right prospect to me

Is the numbre of games he'd played really that much of an excuse? He played more than fifty times for Leeds last season and clearly did a decent enough job there.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

TBH he is only 18 and probably dropped into a bad position at Spurs. But £30mil does seem to be an example of overhype. I had a quick search of the most expensive teenagers in English football and he is in the middle of the top 10. Some names in there.

Just looked down that list and there’s no Vinicius Junior or Rodrygo, didn’t the other young Brazilian who scored against England that plays for Madrid go for big money as well?

[Dave]

Very much not "in English football" though.

Mbappe was a teenager when PSG paid £160m for him.

[Somniloquism]

Very much not "in English football" though.

Mbappe was a teenager when PSG paid £160m for him.

From Mbappe's wiki page.

On 31 August 2017, Paris Saint-Germain (PSG) announced the signing of Mbappé from Monaco on loan with a mandatory purchase option of €180 million.[63][64] According to PSG's assistant sporting director Luis Ferrer, the shift in Mbappé's decision to join the club was partly thanks to a "convincing" speech given by manager Unai Emery at the Mbappés' home over the summer.