Quote from: nick harper on February 02, 2025, 09:09:47 AMI get confused with VAR but I thought the incident was a subjective offside in terms of whether Rogers impeded from an offside position, in which case the ref has to make the decision from the monitor. I think unusually, the decision was made too quickly.One question I have is whether anybody saw the position of the linesman when he flagged. My guess is he was flagging the scorer as he can’t know whether Rogers touched the defender.All the amateur refs defending the decision as if it was obvious on X are assuming he flagged Rogers.If the offside was given against a different player then surely VAR had to send the ref to the monitor?
I get confused with VAR but I thought the incident was a subjective offside in terms of whether Rogers impeded from an offside position, in which case the ref has to make the decision from the monitor. I think unusually, the decision was made too quickly.
Quote from: jon collett on February 02, 2025, 09:20:22 AMQuote from: nick harper on February 02, 2025, 09:09:47 AMI get confused with VAR but I thought the incident was a subjective offside in terms of whether Rogers impeded from an offside position, in which case the ref has to make the decision from the monitor. I think unusually, the decision was made too quickly.One question I have is whether anybody saw the position of the linesman when he flagged. My guess is he was flagging the scorer as he can’t know whether Rogers touched the defender.All the amateur refs defending the decision as if it was obvious on X are assuming he flagged Rogers.If the offside was given against a different player then surely VAR had to send the ref to the monitor?Yep, I can't see how he would would have flagged Rogers either, unless he thought it was Rogers who actually crossed the ball?It opens up a can of worms regarding the process really because in a circumstance like that, the lino should make it clear who he has flagged offside. That then gets checked on VAR along with anything else. If the VAR official didn't flag Rogers but thought he fouled the player, then the ref should have been sent to he monitor to check it.
Watching Villa away from home is like we've gone back in time to Lambert's idiotic sideways and backwards passing across our own penalty area. We had a goal kick that we spent about a minute passing sideways from one edge of the penalty area to another, only to lose possession just outside the box. I appreciate Emery's style of football is all about possession, but we've been rumbled now! Even if Emi took a traditional goal kick and we lost possession in the opposition's half it wouldn't be as dangerous as losing possession outside our own penalty area? We just don't have the players at the moment who are capable of keeping possession in midfield and springing the trap.Another thing that is really getting my goat right now is Konsa getting caught in possession and falling over on the ball and picking the ball up. He's doing it every game now. Refs are going to catch on the this sooner or later and a booking will be coming his way.
Quote from: tomd2103 on February 02, 2025, 11:40:09 AMQuote from: jon collett on February 02, 2025, 09:20:22 AMQuote from: nick harper on February 02, 2025, 09:09:47 AMI get confused with VAR but I thought the incident was a subjective offside in terms of whether Rogers impeded from an offside position, in which case the ref has to make the decision from the monitor. I think unusually, the decision was made too quickly.One question I have is whether anybody saw the position of the linesman when he flagged. My guess is he was flagging the scorer as he can’t know whether Rogers touched the defender.All the amateur refs defending the decision as if it was obvious on X are assuming he flagged Rogers.If the offside was given against a different player then surely VAR had to send the ref to the monitor?Yep, I can't see how he would would have flagged Rogers either, unless he thought it was Rogers who actually crossed the ball?It opens up a can of worms regarding the process really because in a circumstance like that, the lino should make it clear who he has flagged offside. That then gets checked on VAR along with anything else. If the VAR official didn't flag Rogers but thought he fouled the player, then the ref should have been sent to he monitor to check it.Isn't it just the same as standing infront of keeper from corner and blocking his view as header comes in. If you're stopping an opposition player from doing something then you're deemed offside now.Annoying as I very much doubt Semedo was getting across in time to block the McGinn cross regardless, he was pointing at the wall when we first played it.
It was offside. Rogers doesn't need to have committed a foul to become active. He just needs to have impacted Semedo's ability to get near the ball. Rogers stood deliberately offside and his role in the routine was to make it harder for Semedo to get to McGinn to buy him space. Therefore, the second he nudged Semedo, he became active and therefore offside. I've seen them given before so it's fair enough. The issue yesterday was the players not the referee
Their fans embarrassed themselves with hat high pitch “veela veela” nonsense. Imagine being so sad that pretending to be a nose isn’t beneath you.