Marcus Rashford - signed on loan (injured - out for season?)

[Dave]

Pity the narrative isn't something like this...

Bright start since signing - adds something to Villa, and looks to be enjoying his football.

Clearly getting match fitness back and has to work in Emery's system - where there are no passengers...

The door is very much open for him to kick-start his career at a well-run, big club.

For pretty much everyone but Man Utd fans and weird right-wingers still angry about 2020, it is, isn't it?

But if you're a Man Utd fan, then obviously the narrative isn't going to be the above, it's going to be through the lens of what it means about Man Utd.

[Louzie0]

I’d rather like this one to be the 0-6 goal fest we haven’t had for some time.
It’s way overdue and would start young Marcus’ scoring off a treat.

[Dave]

Its a bit like that old quote attributed to the Chinese leader in the 70s about the success of French revolution - it's too early to say.

And while it's a nice quote, it's often forgotten that Zhou Enlai thought that Kissinger was asking him about the 1968 Paris uprisings which had happened three years earlier, rather than it being a piece of wise philosophising on the nature of history.

[cdbearsfan]

Ah, boo. Didn't know that.

[Dave]

Yeah, I was disappointed to learn it too.

[Hookeysmith]

Amorims treatment of him i feel was worse than Gerrards to Mings.

My initial fear about him signing was this - that all the narrative was to be about them and how his move affected them.

When really the story was "Former star returning to form thanks to the superb coaching and man management of SUE"

I only want to hear about how his performances are embellishing our team not theirs

[Dave]

My initial fear about him signing was this - that all the narrative was to be about them and how his move affected them.

No it wasn't.

Your initial fears were his "lifestyle and usual entourage", "the horror of his loan deal", that "his shit attitude rubs off on some of our younger players", that he'd "come with a chip on thier shoulder acting like they are doing us the favour" and that you really hoped we wouldn't have to find out how he might perform for us.

[eamonn]

That is a blow. I thought Zhou was a wise old bastard.

[Hookeysmith]

My initial fear about him signing was this - that all the narrative was to be about them and how his move affected them.

No it wasn't.

Your initial fears were his "lifestyle and usual entourage", "the horror of his loan deal", that "his shit attitude rubs off on some of our younger players", that he'd "come with a chip on thier shoulder acting like they are doing us the favour" and that you really hoped we wouldn't have to find out how he might perform for us.

Thanks for stalking me - appreciated that you care that much.

To be honest that could of been attached to anyone of their players as i feel they are all the same but he was portrayed as being the pantomime villain in the fall of the Redfilth.

I admit that my fears were not proved correct and i have been very pleasantly a surprised by his attitude and application whilst with us.

I am still not happy with all the talk about him is linked to them rather than how great a coach Emery is to have gotten his mojo back in less than a month. The media are still peddling that Amorim was ok to hang him out to dry - its appalling really.

[Drummond]

And his big nose.

[Dave]

The media are still peddling that Amorim was ok to hang him out to dry - its appalling really.

Where? Perhaps we read different things, but I can honestly say I've not seen anyone say this.

[Small Rodent]

It’s really not stalking, it’s public domain.

[Drummond]

It’s really not stalking, it’s public domain.

By the way, how is Minnie? I saw her pop out through the skirting board the other day.

[brontebilly]

Amorims treatment of him i feel was worse than Gerrards to Mings.

My initial fear about him signing was this - that all the narrative was to be about them and how his move affected them.

When really the story was "Former star returning to form thanks to the superb coaching and man management of SUE"

I only want to hear about how his performances are embellishing our team not theirs

Amorim wanted him gone at all costs, that's true, after he gave him a chance to start with. But Amorim, EtH, OGS, Rangnick all had issues with him that weren't solely tactical. Rashford wasn't doing the basics on or off the pitch hence why he had to eventually leave.

I don't think it's remotely comparable to Gerrards "look me in the eye" nonsense with Mings. Mings was always seen as a model pro on and off the pitch, Gerrard didn't rate him fair enough and brought Carlos in to replace him.  But when you make tactical decisions like that, you can't leave the senior player stewing on the bench. 2 games in he had to bring him back in, don't think that was ever going to work. Gerrards ego had most of our players downing tools by the end, not just one player.

[Sexual Ealing]

The club wanted him out because of his contract. That's it.