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Author Topic: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan (injured - out for season?)  (Read 127317 times)

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1485 on: February 23, 2025, 10:38:48 AM »
I don't like Ronaldo and try my best to ignore his existence, but... be said a lot of things when he left them the second time, and he was right about them all.

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1486 on: February 23, 2025, 10:46:00 AM »
Amorim has come in, it looks a joyless club to play for, they look badly coached, players are being chucked under a bus and their players are better than being 15th. That's why it's like Gerrard for me.

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1487 on: February 23, 2025, 10:49:08 AM »
It is, but that was happening pre-him as well.

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1488 on: February 23, 2025, 10:53:22 AM »
They were winning trophies and not their heading for their lowest finish for 50 years.

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1489 on: February 23, 2025, 11:01:22 AM »
Maybe so, but it’s pretty revisionist to suggest that the wheels have all fallen off and the rot has set in because of Amorim. He’s part of it and has not helped himself, but there are underlying cultural issues at play.

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1490 on: February 23, 2025, 11:04:52 AM »
Maybe so, but it’s pretty revisionist to suggest that the wheels have all fallen off and the rot has set in because of Amorim. He’s part of it and has not helped himself, but there are underlying cultural issues at play.

I think it's probably both.  Amorim has ostracised their best player (who now plays for us, thanks for that) and has made them worse than under Ten Hag, which is something.  Yes, the cultural stuff I'm sure is under the surface, but you can't call Amorim anything other than an abject failure so far.  I wanted their game yesterday and until Everton ran out of steam and Pickford decided to leave the goal open for the Fernandez free kick, they looked like a team who were already relegated.  Which, obviously, can't go on long enough. 

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1491 on: February 23, 2025, 11:09:11 AM »
There's no maybe about it. They won trophies the last 2 seasons and 15th would be their worst finish since relegation. And i've never said they didn't have issues before, but Rashford left a badly coached side, was thrown under the bus by the manager, and they are still comically shit. Meanwhile in a better enviroment he appears to be thriving. Much as our squad did as soon Gerrard was fucked off. Which was my point, a positive enviroment and good coaching makes a massive difference to a player. We saw that with Gerrard, and we're seeing it with Rashford and other players that left.

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1492 on: February 23, 2025, 12:37:37 PM »
Yeah they've been rotten for ages, but Amorim is, as said earlier, Gerrard with a tan, it's almost a join-the-dots replica of his time, the unsuitable system, shit football and results, player 'management, the lot.

It's fucking brilliant, isn't it?

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1493 on: February 23, 2025, 12:41:47 PM »
Yeah they've been rotten for ages, but Amorim is, as said earlier, Gerrard with a tan, it's almost a join-the-dots replica of his time, the unsuitable system, shit football and results, player 'management, the lot.

It's fucking brilliant, isn't it?

Success with Sporting surely out ranks success with Sevco?

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1494 on: February 23, 2025, 12:45:03 PM »
Yeah they've been rotten for ages, but Amorim is, as said earlier, Gerrard with a tan, it's almost a join-the-dots replica of his time, the unsuitable system, shit football and results, player 'management, the lot.

It's fucking brilliant, isn't it?

Success with Sporting surely out ranks success with Sevco?

I would agree but it's still a gulf in class and lack of experience leading to the same outcomes.

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1495 on: February 23, 2025, 12:55:50 PM »
Emery came in to a team lacking in self belief and apparent quality, looked at the players and picked a system to get early results whilst instilling self belief and coaching they hadn't come across before. That meant Mings cut out his mistakes and marked the one area, not all over the pitch and Watkins didn't keep on pulling wide of goal but stayed within the width of the goal box. We end up qualifying for European competition.

Amorim comes in to a team lacking self belief, but should have quality, looked at the players and started trying to get them into a system he knows but they don't, then rubbished the club, team and individual players.

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1496 on: February 23, 2025, 01:09:08 PM »
Has Rashford said that Barca is his "dream move"?  We just had 3 pages of don't believe the media BS and are still spouting the same. Just let him play his football, that's probably all he wants, too, after the media circus surrounding his Old Trafford departure.  He'd be an excellent signing on his current form.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2025, 01:19:39 PM by DrGonzo »

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1497 on: February 23, 2025, 01:11:32 PM »
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For Manchester United, it was yet another day during which their troubles were exposed. For Marcus Rashford, it was the polar opposite.

Rashford, who joined United at the age of seven and for so long was an instrumental player for the club, found himself frozen out under new manager Ruben Amorim.

So he went on loan to Aston Villa - and, on Saturday, he shone.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx2gd810143o

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1498 on: February 23, 2025, 01:29:55 PM »
If it is true that five managers at Yanited struggled with his discipline, motivation or whatever, I'd be wary about wanting to sign him based on a couple of games. Yes, they are a circus of a club but if Maguire and Bruno have shown him up as how senior players should lead, it's not great.

Who's to say he won't revert to type after the novelty of being wanted by another club and playing every game wears off? It's a massive salary outlay and we're already fucked by UEFA's revenue-wages ratio. I'd want assurances that he won't start acting the twat and getting pissed in Belfast nightclubs if we were to commit to four more years.

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Re: Marcus Rashford - signed on loan
« Reply #1499 on: February 24, 2025, 06:59:36 PM »
Rashford’s heading back to Old Trafford.

Apparently he's needed to run the free meals scheme for staff.

 


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