Aston Villa vs West Ham post-match thread

[Footy-Vill]

With the time frame of 70 to 90 hours before a match thread we have now bypassed this as it's less than 70 hours before Celtic match.
Can we expect something to be put up tomorrow morning then given it's a Sunday evening.

[Legion]

With the time frame of 70 to 90 hours before a match thread we have now bypassed this as it's less than 70 hours before Celtic match.
Can we expect something to be put up tomorrow morning then given it's a Sunday evening.

Feel free. Remember to add a poll.

[PeterWithesShin]

We'd end up on 64 points if we carried on at the current rate of the last 10. Majority of seasons that's 6th, with the odd 5th or 7th. It needs very little improvement to add the few more points needed for a usual 5th place. My point is that for all the we're done, any Europe would be an achievement and so on we're actually pretty much at the pace needed the last 10 despite it feeling that we're not.

[RamboandBruno]

Mings going off changed everything. Happy enough with a point in the end, we can't really expect to be winning PL games with no defender comfortable competing in the air. .

Positives - Konsa had his best game in a while, Ramsey was very strong. Bailey was decent I thought. Kamara strong yet again in midfield.

Negatives, Martinez was a joke, unsurprisingly we ran out of legs, Maatsen brutal again, limited impact off the bench in general but Emery got subs wrong again anyway. Rogers was dreadful and should have been first man off, not Bailey. No reason to take Ramsey off after playing 5 mins in Monaco. Instead we had likes of Cash and Tielemans completely gassed last 20 mins and all subs used.

Pretty much agree with this

[ChicagoLion]

Mings going off changed everything. Happy enough with a point in the end, we can't really expect to be winning PL games with no defender comfortable competing in the air. .

Positives - Konsa had his best game in a while, Ramsey was very strong. Bailey was decent I thought. Kamara strong yet again in midfield.

Negatives, Martinez was a joke, unsurprisingly we ran out of legs, Maatsen brutal again, limited impact off the bench in general but Emery got subs wrong again anyway. Rogers was dreadful and should have been first man off, not Bailey. No reason to take Ramsey off after playing 5 mins in Monaco. Instead we had likes of Cash and Tielemans completely gassed last 20 mins and all subs used.

Pretty much agree with this

So do I, the worst decision was Digne for Mings.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

We'd end up on 64 points if we carried on at the current rate of the last 10. Majority of seasons that's 6th, with the odd 5th or 7th. It needs very little improvement to add the few more points needed for a usual 5th place. My point is that for all the we're done, any Europe would be an achievement and so on we're actually pretty much at the pace needed the last 10 despite it feeling that we're not.

That’s quite reassuring. A lot of us have been confident of doing it as it just needs to click but every game passes without it happening. I’m sure we’ll click in the next game….

[VillaTim]

Was it another game where the opponents scored with the 1st shot on target

[RamboandBruno]

Its all hindsight but i thought we got much worse with Duran and Malen replacing Watkins and Bailey. I honestly don’t know where Malen was playing and he didn’t seem to be showing for the ball much, still extremely early days.
Anyway, massive February coming up

[ROBBO]

Bailey again seems to be going at half pace, where has his speed gone? JJ had his best game for a while and Kamara is fast becoming our best player. The substitutions were i suspect more about the midweek game than anything else. How we have let ourselves short of centre backs is disppointing, I thought we had hired the best in the business who was well connected to sort this out.

[tomd2103]

When other team players press Villa they are like greyhounds on steroids, when we do it we are like cuddly little puddles

Don't talk wet.

The sheer amount of games we need to get through has precipitated this lack of energy.

Thats the challange - we cant rotate really

This month was always going to be tough given the number of games to be played and injuries have made it even tougher.  Finishing in the top 8 of the Champions League on Wednesday would be massive in a number of ways, but mainly because it means that hectic schedule does not extend into February.

[Somniloquism]

Absolute garbage. VillaTim, Dimitri C, Risso and Chicago Villa will be absolutely buzzing!

If that is the first thing you think of after a game like that, I think you need serious help.
With therapy deep feelings of inadequacy can be mitigated but in the mean time keep taking the meds and hopefully you will get a girlfriend soon.

What a waste, he's banned.

I see that now, has his play date Jwarry also been banned?

For someone who read through the rest of the thread, saw the mods had  got involved, also read that it was now all sorted, was there any need for that?

[Somniloquism]

Was it another game where the opponents scored with the 1st shot on target

No.

[Somniloquism]

I know but my point really was when I think of fatigue, tiredness or exhaustion I think of one of the Brownlee Brothers helping the other over the line after 140miles. You will never see a footballer close to that...basically I hate the mentality of the game at times.

 Bad example again unfortunately. The Brownlee example, well it was not 140 miles but normal olympic distance which is 1 mile swim, 25miles cycle, 7 mile run. Still tough but Jonny misjudged the heat and his water intake and collapsed due to severe dehydration rather the serious fatigue. It is a distance he has done many other times (and longer) with no issues.

Thank you Alexa.

My pleasure Tuscans. Fatigue in football is a real thing, I just don't get why you want to denigrate it, especially using made up things.

[BC54 VFC]

When other team players press Villa they are like greyhounds on steroids, when we do it we are like cuddly little puddles

Don't talk wet.

The sheer amount of games we need to get through has precipitated this lack of energy.

Thats the challange - we cant rotate really

This month was always going to be tough given the number of games to be played and injuries have made it even tougher.  Finishing in the top 8 of the Champions League on Wednesday would be massive in a number of ways, but mainly because it means that hectic schedule dies not extend into February.

Absolutely, 8 games in December, 8 in January and, if we don't finish 8th on Wednesday, 7 in February...which could turn into 8 in the shortest month if we beat Spurs, and get told to play our Fifth Round game on Friday 28th.

[Tuscans]

I know but my point really was when I think of fatigue, tiredness or exhaustion I think of one of the Brownlee Brothers helping the other over the line after 140miles. You will never see a footballer close to that...basically I hate the mentality of the game at times.

 Bad example again unfortunately. The Brownlee example, well it was not 140 miles but normal olympic distance which is 1 mile swim, 25miles cycle, 7 mile run. Still tough but Jonny misjudged the heat and his water intake and collapsed due to severe dehydration rather the serious fatigue. It is a distance he has done many other times (and longer) with no issues.

Thank you Alexa.

My pleasure Tuscans. Fatigue in football is a real thing, I just don't get why you want to denigrate it, especially using made up things.

Cycling isn't a fabricated sport I conjured up out of thin air and a triathlon is usually made up of 140 miles, albeit the scenario featuring the Brownlee bros I was wrong about. Just other sports I don't ever remember participants whining about a need for a rest.