Aston Villa vs West Ham post-match thread

[Tuscans]

This team statistically runs a lot less than others so I can't buy into tiredness and fatigue. I think it's a crock of shite when managers come out with it ( ours doesn't ) and you see cyclists do 200km a day and footballers struggle with 45mins and break and another 45mins every 3 days.

Different sports though, and when you are in the pack, your energy usage is minimal for most of the 200km unless it is mountains day, and then quite a few do tire out. (I won't mention that cyclists also might get helping hands from more medical sources which footballers might not.)

I know but my point really was when I think of fatigue, tiredness or exhaustion I think of one of the Brownlee Brothers helping the other over the line after 140miles. You will never see a footballer close to that...basically I hate the mentality of the game at times.

[ChicagoLion]

Absolute garbage. VillaTim, Dimitri C, Risso and Chicago Villa will be absolutely buzzing!

If that is the first thing you think of after a game like that, I think you need serious help.
With therapy deep feelings of inadequacy can be mitigated but in the mean time keep taking the meds and hopefully you will get a girlfriend soon.

[aj2k77]

How many games have we won by more than a goal this season?

[Tuscans]

Absolute garbage. VillaTim, Dimitri C, Risso and Chicago Villa will be absolutely buzzing!

If that is the first thing you think of after a game like that, I think you need serious help.
With therapy deep feelings of inadequacy can be mitigated but in the mean time keep taking the meds and hopefully you will get a girlfriend soon.

What a waste, he's banned.

[VillaTim]

One thing I thought today - that I have many times before - is rogers would be world class if he knew when to make the pass / cross / shot

He can be so frustrating, we’d be in such a great position if he released the ball. He attracts 2/3 opposition players so we always have some in space. His control does my head in too, dangles a foot to try and control it rather than being in a better position.

I'm noticing this more. He does the wrong thing or executes the right thing poorly nine times out of ten

9 times out of ten? Doubt that plays out. I’d say it’s really obvious he’s fatigued and needs a break. He is a young player playing his first full season at this level. We put so much reliance on him because he’s been brilliant, but it is too much now. He needs to be given the chance to recuperate a bit and not start every time he’s fit (or at least available).

Totally agree on this , we are putting far too much responsibility on Rogers , I thought he would have been rested today and keep him fresh for Wednesday.

[jon collett]

The Mings injury is catastrophic for our season because i dont think we'll see him back anytime soon.

I'm going to wait until we get the official diagnosis. You don't normally get the person being out for sometime walk back along the touchline to sit in the dugout with a big smile on their face.

Unai has been optimistic about this after the game. Says on first diagnosis it is slight and he hopes not out for long.

[Somniloquism]

I know but my point really was when I think of fatigue, tiredness or exhaustion I think of one of the Brownlee Brothers helping the other over the line after 140miles. You will never see a footballer close to that...basically I hate the mentality of the game at times.

 Bad example again unfortunately. The Brownlee example, well it was not 140 miles but normal olympic distance which is 1 mile swim, 25miles cycle, 7 mile run. Still tough but Jonny misjudged the heat and his water intake and collapsed due to severe dehydration rather the serious fatigue. It is a distance he has done many other times (and longer) with no issues.

[Steve67]

Bailey was poor again today.  Two shots, easily blocked, other than that, he added very little.  McGinn struggled to get into the game when he came on, I was hoping for more control of the midfield but it didn't happen.  I thought Ramsey and Kamara played as well as any Villa player.  Digne, Maatsen, Tielemans were below par.  We just don't seem able to match the consistency of last season and the injuries have also not helped this either.

[astonvilla82]

When other team players press Villa they are like greyhounds on steroids, when we do it we are like cuddly little puddles

Don't talk wet.

Do you actually watch our games this season

[PeterWithesShin]

When other team players press Villa they are like greyhounds on steroids, when we do it we are like cuddly little puddles

Don't talk wet.

Do you actually watch our games this season

It was a pun on you saying "puddle",

[Tuscans]

When other team players press Villa they are like greyhounds on steroids, when we do it we are like cuddly little puddles

Don't talk wet.

Do you actually watch our games this season

It was a pun on you saying "puddle",

Ha, what a drip!

[astonvilla82]

When other team players press Villa they are like greyhounds on steroids, when we do it we are like cuddly little puddles

Don't talk wet.

Must be watching different games to me this season

[Olneythelonely]

When other team players press Villa they are like greyhounds on steroids, when we do it we are like cuddly little puddles

Don't talk wet.

Must be watching different games to me this season

You’ve missed the pun again.

[astonvilla82]

When other team players press Villa they are like greyhounds on steroids, when we do it we are like cuddly little puddles

Don't talk wet.

Must be watching different games to me this season

You’ve missed the pun again.

Got it now

[mr woo]

Soooo, the recruitment solution is to buy Juan Foyth? Is this the best we can do? 

Not better than Konsa. Certainly not better than Mings.

If you need a cheap stopgap I'd rather put Swinkels in.