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Offline ozzjim

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1020 on: Today at 10:42:07 AM »
Atleti now sniffing around the Don.

After yesterday that’d be a hard no.

Unless they have another player we fancy signing.

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1021 on: Today at 10:42:50 AM »
Daft to get rid given our current position.

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1022 on: Today at 10:44:05 AM »
I will reluctantly accept Griezmann in exchange.

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1023 on: Today at 10:45:43 AM »
He's the Litmanen you covet.

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1024 on: Today at 10:47:57 AM »
I will reluctantly accept Griezmann in exchange.

Alvarez more like.

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1025 on: Today at 10:52:36 AM »
I will reluctantly accept Griezmann in exchange.

Alvarez more like.

Well, hello. Now we're talking.

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1026 on: Today at 11:01:57 AM »
Seen this on X/ Fb. Zero idea if this is how it actually works, but reads well and sounds like it could be.

How Aston Villa could create PSR headroom in January 2026 (explained)

Football finance isn’t about cash — it’s about accounting. And that’s where this potential Aston Villa scenario gets interesting.

Let’s set the scene.

Villa signed Donyell Malen for £20m on 14 January 2025. If he’s on a standard 5-year contract, his fee is spread at £4m per year. By January 2026, only one year has hit the books, meaning Malen still has a book value of roughly £16m.

Now imagine Villa do the following:

• Loan Malen to Roma for £1.5m
• Include an obligation to buy for £25m
• Buy Tammy Abraham for €20m (around £17m) on a 5-year deal

On the pitch, it looks like a straight exchange of forwards. On the balance sheet, it’s a very different story.

📊 The Malen side

If Roma’s obligation to buy is written in a way that makes it effectively certain, Villa can usually treat it as a sale immediately for PSR purposes.

That means:

• Sale price: £25m
• Remaining book value: ~£16m
• Instant accounting profit: ~£9m

Add the £1.5m loan fee, and Villa book around £10.5m of PSR benefit in the current season.

📉 The Tammy Abraham side

Villa’s purchase of Tammy Abraham works the opposite way.

A £17m fee over a 5-year contract means:

• £3.4m per year hits the PSR calculations
• Not £17m all at once

So in the same season Villa record over £10m of income, they only take a £3.4m charge for Tammy’s transfer fee (wages and agents aside).

🔁 The PSR effect

Put together:

• +£10.5m from Malen
• −£3.4m for Abraham

➡️ Net PSR improvement of roughly £7m in January 2026

That’s the key mechanism:
profits are booked immediately, costs are spread over time.

🚨 Why this attracts scrutiny

If two deals are clearly linked, regulators may ask:

• Is Malen really worth £25m?
• Is Tammy’s price conveniently low?
• Are the deals helping one club’s PSR position more than reflecting market value?

If valuations are deemed artificial, adjustments can be made. But if the numbers are defensible, the structure itself is allowed.

🧠 The takeaway

This is classic PSR engineering:

• Immediate accounting profit
• Deferred costs
• Squad strength maintained
• Risk pushed into future seasons

It’s legal. It’s clever. And it shows why modern transfers are as much about spreadsheets as they are about football.

One caveat. UEFA’s SCR system doesn’t bank the net revenue of a sale up front unlike PSR but spreads it over a 3-year period making the deal broadly net neutral in each year.

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1027 on: Today at 11:56:35 AM »

One caveat. UEFA’s SCR system doesn’t bank the net revenue of a sale up front unlike PSR but spreads it over a 3-year period making the deal broadly net neutral in each year.

This is interesting. Seems pretty reasonable from a big picture perspective, but it must be a nightmare for club accountants keeping track of all the different requirements and accounting periods.

UEFA doing things by calendar year just seems madness considering the reality of most clubs.

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1028 on: Today at 01:37:40 PM »
so is Don staying?  I hope so.

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1029 on: Today at 02:00:43 PM »

One caveat. UEFA’s SCR system doesn’t bank the net revenue of a sale up front unlike PSR but spreads it over a 3-year period making the deal broadly net neutral in each year.

This is interesting. Seems pretty reasonable from a big picture perspective, but it must be a nightmare for club accountants keeping track of all the different requirements and accounting periods.

UEFA doing things by calendar year just seems madness considering the reality of most clubs.

From recollection and this may be bullshit but the UK is the outlier here in not having a December 31st end of year accounting period. I think most European continental businesses have Dec31st as end of year? But as ever I may be wrong.

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1030 on: Today at 02:14:46 PM »
Seen this on X/ Fb. Zero idea if this is how it actually works, but reads well and sounds like it could be.

How Aston Villa could create PSR headroom in January 2026 (explained)

Football finance isn’t about cash — it’s about accounting. And that’s where this potential Aston Villa scenario gets interesting.

Let’s set the scene.

Villa signed Donyell Malen for £20m on 14 January 2025. If he’s on a standard 5-year contract, his fee is spread at £4m per year. By January 2026, only one year has hit the books, meaning Malen still has a book value of roughly £16m.

Now imagine Villa do the following:

• Loan Malen to Roma for £1.5m
• Include an obligation to buy for £25m
• Buy Tammy Abraham for €20m (around £17m) on a 5-year deal

On the pitch, it looks like a straight exchange of forwards. On the balance sheet, it’s a very different story.

📊 The Malen side

If Roma’s obligation to buy is written in a way that makes it effectively certain, Villa can usually treat it as a sale immediately for PSR purposes.

That means:

• Sale price: £25m
• Remaining book value: ~£16m
• Instant accounting profit: ~£9m

Add the £1.5m loan fee, and Villa book around £10.5m of PSR benefit in the current season.

📉 The Tammy Abraham side

Villa’s purchase of Tammy Abraham works the opposite way.

A £17m fee over a 5-year contract means:

• £3.4m per year hits the PSR calculations
• Not £17m all at once

So in the same season Villa record over £10m of income, they only take a £3.4m charge for Tammy’s transfer fee (wages and agents aside).

🔁 The PSR effect

Put together:

• +£10.5m from Malen
• −£3.4m for Abraham

➡️ Net PSR improvement of roughly £7m in January 2026

That’s the key mechanism:
profits are booked immediately, costs are spread over time.

🚨 Why this attracts scrutiny

If two deals are clearly linked, regulators may ask:

• Is Malen really worth £25m?
• Is Tammy’s price conveniently low?
• Are the deals helping one club’s PSR position more than reflecting market value?

If valuations are deemed artificial, adjustments can be made. But if the numbers are defensible, the structure itself is allowed.

🧠 The takeaway

This is classic PSR engineering:

• Immediate accounting profit
• Deferred costs
• Squad strength maintained
• Risk pushed into future seasons

It’s legal. It’s clever. And it shows why modern transfers are as much about spreadsheets as they are about football.

One caveat. UEFA’s SCR system doesn’t bank the net revenue of a sale up front unlike PSR but spreads it over a 3-year period making the deal broadly net neutral in each year.

I thought PSR was the overall running costs of the club - revenue, player sales, sponsorships, other sales (women's team etc)

SCR was totally based on revenue from sponsors / ticket sales etc balanced against players salaries to create a ratio that has to be lower than 70%

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1031 on: Today at 02:16:33 PM »
When you have so many sides interested  in marley it does make you wonder  why the hell are we selling him right now?

I dont get it ffp or not

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1032 on: Today at 02:20:19 PM »
When you have so many sides interested  in marley it does make you wonder  why the hell are we selling him right now?

I dont get it ffp or not

I just hope it's not the start of a player Exodus.

Offline Villatillidie25

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1033 on: Today at 02:26:04 PM »
Seen this on X/ Fb. Zero idea if this is how it actually works, but reads well and sounds like it could be.

How Aston Villa could create PSR headroom in January 2026 (explained)

Football finance isn’t about cash — it’s about accounting. And that’s where this potential Aston Villa scenario gets interesting.

Let’s set the scene.

Villa signed Donyell Malen for £20m on 14 January 2025. If he’s on a standard 5-year contract, his fee is spread at £4m per year. By January 2026, only one year has hit the books, meaning Malen still has a book value of roughly £16m.

Now imagine Villa do the following:

• Loan Malen to Roma for £1.5m
• Include an obligation to buy for £25m
• Buy Tammy Abraham for €20m (around £17m) on a 5-year deal

On the pitch, it looks like a straight exchange of forwards. On the balance sheet, it’s a very different story.

📊 The Malen side

If Roma’s obligation to buy is written in a way that makes it effectively certain, Villa can usually treat it as a sale immediately for PSR purposes.

That means:

• Sale price: £25m
• Remaining book value: ~£16m
• Instant accounting profit: ~£9m

Add the £1.5m loan fee, and Villa book around £10.5m of PSR benefit in the current season.

📉 The Tammy Abraham side

Villa’s purchase of Tammy Abraham works the opposite way.

A £17m fee over a 5-year contract means:

• £3.4m per year hits the PSR calculations
• Not £17m all at once

So in the same season Villa record over £10m of income, they only take a £3.4m charge for Tammy’s transfer fee (wages and agents aside).

🔁 The PSR effect

Put together:

• +£10.5m from Malen
• −£3.4m for Abraham

➡️ Net PSR improvement of roughly £7m in January 2026

That’s the key mechanism:
profits are booked immediately, costs are spread over time.

🚨 Why this attracts scrutiny

If two deals are clearly linked, regulators may ask:

• Is Malen really worth £25m?
• Is Tammy’s price conveniently low?
• Are the deals helping one club’s PSR position more than reflecting market value?

If valuations are deemed artificial, adjustments can be made. But if the numbers are defensible, the structure itself is allowed.

🧠 The takeaway

This is classic PSR engineering:

• Immediate accounting profit
• Deferred costs
• Squad strength maintained
• Risk pushed into future seasons

It’s legal. It’s clever. And it shows why modern transfers are as much about spreadsheets as they are about football.

One caveat. UEFA’s SCR system doesn’t bank the net revenue of a sale up front unlike PSR but spreads it over a 3-year period making the deal broadly net neutral in each year.

I thought PSR was the overall running costs of the club - revenue, player sales, sponsorships, other sales (women's team etc)

SCR was totally based on revenue from sponsors / ticket sales etc balanced against players salaries to create a ratio that has to be lower than 70%

Materially yes. Although I’m pretty sure even UEFAs SCR has something on financial loss threshold (of the SCR elements, not psr) so as ever it’s murky. But given its SCR that we’re now stuffed by and the PL has moved to it, we can basically forget about PSR (although there are differences between PL SCR and UEFAs still but they’re much more aligned than PSR vs SCR)

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Re: Donyell Malen
« Reply #1034 on: Today at 02:27:39 PM »
When you have so many sides interested  in marley it does make you wonder  why the hell are we selling him right now?

I dont get it ffp or not


Clearly there is a lot of interest.  But he only has one love.

 


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