I'd rather play a de-motivated Man Yoo so for that reason only I hope Spuds win. Surely this is going to raise a debate about the whole idea of giving a CL berth to the winners of the Europa Cup? It's the worst case scenario for UEFA because they are going to have a team in the CL next season who finished 16th or 17th. It makes a mockery of the name of the competition.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on May 19, 2025, 11:28:37 PMI don't really care which of those two shit house clubs win unless there is a slant which impacts us, and there isI'd rather play Man United without them having the boost of having won a European trophy a few days before. Therefore, I hope Spurs win.With respect, I think that's a bit short-sighted as to which impacts Villa. As per the above, it's easy to make the argument that a (even more) broken demoralised Man Utd is the better one to play. It's equally valid that a tools-down, slightly-hungover version who don't need to give a toss about turning up on the last day is the better one to play. In truth, we *should* beat either version comfortably anyway. When they sack Postecoglou, Spurs will be better next season than they have been this. People seem to have completely written them off forever now, much like they decided in the two seasons prior to this one that Chelsea were now an irrelevent joke that we didn't need to worry about any more. I remember last summer there were people on here absolutely losing their minds that various pundits were predicting that Chelsea might finish above us this season.Spurs finished fifth last season and this will be the first time that they've finished lower than eighth since 2008. Until recently the "Spursy" moniker was due to them not winning the league when Leicester did and not winnning the Champions League final. Give them a slightly better manager than the current one, the Champions League to attract players (exactly the sort of players that we would presumably be interested in) and another £150m to spend and they're competing for the positions that we want to be in, like they have been every season until this one for the last twenty years.The current Man Utd are far more likely to mess up the additional money and power that the Champions League gives them, just like they did last season. They've got an old, unsuitable squad that they can't sell, and the £50m of Champions League money will probably just go to paying off Amorim and his staff when that Brexit twat sacks him in November because they're only ninth in the league. Maybe both clubs snap out of it and sort themselves out. They definitely will at some point in the next ten years. But Spurs being in the Champions League next season probably makes a big difference to us. Man Utd being in the Champions League probably doesn't.
I don't really care which of those two shit house clubs win unless there is a slant which impacts us, and there isI'd rather play Man United without them having the boost of having won a European trophy a few days before. Therefore, I hope Spurs win.
I disagree, Spurs never have and never will dominate English football, the other lot have and and potentially could again. Keep them in the mire for as long as possible.
Quote from: AV82EC on May 19, 2025, 02:57:57 PMI don’t know why there is confusion about the Conf League place as it’s Newcastle’s currently as the League Cup Winners unless they qualify for a higher competition in which case it gets given to the League. Whether Chelsea win the Conf League seems neither here nor there to that equation. Unless there is some obscure UEFA competition regualtion that forbids this?Newcastle secured at least Conference League football when they won the League Cup. However, should they finish in the top six, they would qualify for the Champions League or Europa League and the League Cup holder's Conference League place would not be used, instead it would pass to the seventh placed team.The Conference League winners qualify for the following year's Europa League, unless they have otherwise qualified for the Champions League.So, if Chelsea finish seventh and win the Conference League, the 5th, 6th and 7th placed teams would all qualify for the Europa League.The discussion is what happens to England's Conference League spot in those circumstances. Does England lose it, or does it pass to the eighth placed team? The suggestion now seems to be that the latter is the case.
I don’t know why there is confusion about the Conf League place as it’s Newcastle’s currently as the League Cup Winners unless they qualify for a higher competition in which case it gets given to the League. Whether Chelsea win the Conf League seems neither here nor there to that equation. Unless there is some obscure UEFA competition regualtion that forbids this?
Now, I'm not a gambling man. But I singlehandedly dragged Villa over the line last season by betting on Spurs to get top 4, which would have paid for my season ticket.A quick check on SkyBet tells me that betting £15 on all the results to go against us - (Man City beating Bournemouth and Fulham, Chelsea beating Forest, and Newcastle beating Everton) would net me £1.1k.It's tempting. Edit - It had both teams to score on it
Quote from: LeeB on May 20, 2025, 04:00:47 PMI disagree, Spurs never have and never will dominate English football, the other lot have and and potentially could again. Keep them in the mire for as long as possible.They don't need to dominate English football to make our 25-26 season much harder than it needs to be. They just need to return to being the same Spurs as they've been for the last twenty minus one years.
I think we can discount Citeh now. Fulham aren’t winning that game.So we need to win and hope Chelsea or Newcastle fail to match our result.
Whichever way you cut it, we have to win next week and hope Chelsea don’t. Then it’s done and dusted.