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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2130 on: May 15, 2025, 09:38:38 AM »
I know it's not very likely... but say Man City missed out on top five, won the cup, and got a massive points deduction dropping them to just above the relegation places. Would they still qualify for Europa by virtue of winning the cup or would such a penalty automatically disqualify them from European competition?

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2131 on: May 15, 2025, 09:40:36 AM »
I know it's not very likely... but say Man City missed out on top five, won the cup, and got a massive points deduction dropping them to just above the relegation places. Would they still qualify for Europa by virtue of winning the cup or would such a penalty automatically disqualify them from European competition?
I don’t see how it could, unless UEFA were part of the sanctioning process.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2132 on: May 15, 2025, 09:41:43 AM »
So it is possible a points deduction could effectively be no penalty at all, then. Like when the Football League waited until Small Heath had no chance of going up and then deducted them just enough points to ensure that there was no chance of them going down.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2133 on: May 15, 2025, 10:49:14 AM »
On the Premier League app (the one you do your fantasy footy on) all the pundits have us getting 5th. I agree with them. We won’t drop points, Chelsea will.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2134 on: May 15, 2025, 11:11:19 AM »
Yep. Famously, we never drop points against Man U.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2135 on: May 15, 2025, 11:27:51 AM »
Indeed - if Spurs and Manure perform as they have as late we should comfortably win both, but we know it’s typically never simple. Better playing Manure away than home though.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2136 on: May 15, 2025, 11:49:34 AM »
So it is possible a points deduction could effectively be no penalty at all, then. Like when the Football League waited until Small Heath had no chance of going up and then deducted them just enough points to ensure that there was no chance of them going down.

My guess.

ManC will be deducted 35-40 points, putting them 17th. That will be applied in August so applying to 24-25, before next season, but they will have done their transfer business by then just before they get a two window ban.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2137 on: May 15, 2025, 11:52:34 AM »
Doubt it, I’d be very surprised if they end up being kicked out of Europe. Transfer ban might happen,

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2138 on: May 15, 2025, 12:40:31 PM »
So it is possible a points deduction could effectively be no penalty at all, then. Like when the Football League waited until Small Heath had no chance of going up and then deducted them just enough points to ensure that there was no chance of them going down.

My guess.

ManC will be deducted 35-40 points, putting them 17th. That will be applied in August so applying to 24-25, before next season, but they will have done their transfer business by then just before they get a two window ban.

So no real punishment then? Unless the transfer ban is for two or three seasons.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2139 on: May 15, 2025, 12:55:04 PM »
If they imposed that sort of punishment, presumably they would be stripped of past trophies as well.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2140 on: May 15, 2025, 01:08:29 PM »
I agree with LeeB and (seemingly) Pat Nevin. About the Villa. I like the Cocteau Twins but Genesis can fuck off back to before the beginning.

I quite like Peter Gabriel though.

There, I've said it. Feels like a weight has been lifted.

Post Gabriel Genesis, post Peter Green Fleetwood Mac and post Eno Roxy Music can all fuck off into a big shit pit of Partidgesque MoR.

Post-Freddie Queen though, what an excellent idea!

I mean, I hate Queen with or without Freddie Mercury, but what kind of lowlife, money-grubbing shysters do you have to be to think, 'do you know what made us special? The three no-marks that look like they were rejected from joining the paperclip industry because they weren't sexy enough. Let's just replace the singer - what was he bringing to the party anyway?!'

Jesus fucking Christ.

Freddie? When did he leave?

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2141 on: May 15, 2025, 01:48:23 PM »
Lets be positive (although very difficult knowing we have to go the Red filths shit hole and need to win) but if we win both and results go our way we can still finish runners up  ;)

Arsenal vs Newcastle - both cannot win and are both 5 and 3 points respectively above us at present - a draw is ok also but does stop our ability to get 2nd on GD

Bournemouth - fresh from a victory at Arsenal, will give 118 a game and could take 1 or all points - 118 currently 2 points above us

So assuming we beat Spurs we can go into the last game with a lot of options - cannot ask for more than that

Fulham are no mugs at home
Everton can be stubborn buggers and get something at Jawdiedome

Need to bring the house down tomorrow night

And we have (currently) a lot of momentum

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2142 on: May 15, 2025, 01:53:09 PM »
The closer to the last matches, the more teams have nothing to play for. If CP win the FA Cup, then Fulham don't even have Europe to fight for. Obviously positions are worth about £3mil but will that be enough for some teams not to be giving youth debuts?

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2143 on: May 15, 2025, 02:22:18 PM »
Given that sometimes are on the beach at the end of the season, it doesn't seem as bad as what it was at one stage.

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Re: Will we qualify for the CL?
« Reply #2144 on: May 15, 2025, 02:57:58 PM »
My worry is Red filths mentality swings

If they win the cup  = Will they go into the last game, parade the trophy and show their tossers who support them all is well and onto next season - beat the Villa  - same as it ever was?

Lose the final - Having to play knowing no European football for next season, especially Champs league, and their players having to face a potential boo fest from when (hopefully) our first goal goes in. The financial issues will cripple them, especially in the face of trying to get rid of half of their current over valued, over paid knob head players. Man of the people Radcliffe will probably start sacking people before the end of the game.

So with the vomit rising in my throat - i have to say "Come on you Spurs in the final"  :'( :o

 


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