Nottingham Forest vs Aston Villa post-match thread

[Paul.S]

The only silver lining is that despite our frailties and lack of attacking options we are very mich in touch with the top 5 places and January is two weeks away.

No chance top 5 unless we sort that mess out at the back.

[PaulWinch again]

The only silver lining is that despite our frailties and lack of attacking options we are very mich in touch with the top 5 places and January is two weeks away.

No chance top 5 unless we sort that mess out at the back.

It’s not just defensive play, our attacking play is really lacking zip.

[VillaTim]

The defence IS a fucking shambles though. Nearly two goals a game conceded for the whole of 2024. Piss poor.

Defensively we are a train crash . Torres isn't a CB , Carlos is erratic to say the least , Konsa isn't a bloody RB - how much longer does the lab experiment have to go on .
The subs today were crap . Onana had zero presence , Maatsen seems a nothing player to me or hasn't settled yet .
Cash in midfield should never see the light of day again.
Emery has had a mare today not just the players .

[The Edge]

Yes, Cash was fouled in the build up for their winner. Yes, the ref was bad all game but this is all getting a bit repetitive and predictable now.

We spurn way too many chances and if we keep conceding 2 goals a game we’ll finish the season behind the likes of Forest who aren’t a particularly talented team - they just try harder than us and that I just can’t accept.

Never a foul in a million years

Cash was pushed over. Watch it again if you can. Blatant.

Absolutely not. Cash embarrassed himself twice in the space of 30 seconds

You seem to be sticking to your guns with your view that Cash wasn't fouled for their second despite unilateral agreement on here and the various WhatsApp groups I'm on that all think otherwise. Of course thats your perogative but we agree on one thing. For the 30 seconds prior to that incident Cash was piss poor. I think he gave the ball away three times after we won it back. He's not good enough in that position and a massive upgrade is needed. I've long admired Jarod Bowen and I'd love to get him in. Bailey's inconsistency is hampering our season badly.

[VillaTim]

The only silver lining is that despite our frailties and lack of attacking options we are very mich in touch with the top 5 places and January is two weeks away.

No chance top 5 unless we sort that mess out at the back.

It’s not just defensive play, our attacking play is really lacking zip.

We'd have won if we could defend . We scored a lovely goal . Successful teams see that out .

[kippaxvilla2]

Good old Aston Villa we must be the good boys and comply to the letter with FFP.  Forest do it take the risk and get a nominal points reduction.  Now look where they’re overspending has got them. 

[baddowvillans]

We have been weak for years now.  Under Mcleish, Lambert, Sherwood, De Mateo. Garde and right up today.  Weak mentally and weak physically.  Until we put that right we may flirt with success but we will keep throwing away games we should win. 

I think we will end up having a decent season but unlikely to be as good as last year although we should have some good Champions League nights to cling to.  It pains me to say it but we need to look at Arsenal who under Wenger were weak when faced with a physical challenge but look at the now - masters of the dark arts and scoring goals from corners and free kicks in ways where we would probably get punished.  I love Emery and don't want to lose him but until we man up we aren't moving forward.  Of course PSR doesn't help clubs like Villa, Newcastle and yes Forest so if we can't recruit where we need to we need to get better. 

,

[kippaxvilla2]

Back in the real world.  There’s no excuse none for having the defence as badly set up as it is now and has been for the whole of this year.  Get Big Sam in to sort it out.

[PhilVill]

So near and yet so far. Disappointing but not the end of the world. Put it right next weekend and it will be Onwards & Upwards!

Sadly, we keep saying 'put it right' but the same shit defending keeps rearing it's head. That's four terrible goals given away in the last two games.

I reckon with that defence, we looking at 7th -10th with about 55 points this year

[Paul.S]

The only silver lining is that despite our frailties and lack of attacking options we are very mich in touch with the top 5 places and January is two weeks away.

No chance top 5 unless we sort that mess out at the back.

It’s not just defensive play, our attacking play is really lacking zip.

I know why we aren’t attacking like we did. We lost Diaby and Bailey has been woeful and now we’ve got Cash on the wing. It was the perfect away performance today, until the usual defensive calamities. I’ve never seen so many defensive mistakes game after game.
If we haven’t got plans for January we’ll end up mid table.

[PaulWinch again]

The only silver lining is that despite our frailties and lack of attacking options we are very mich in touch with the top 5 places and January is two weeks away.

No chance top 5 unless we sort that mess out at the back.

It’s not just defensive play, our attacking play is really lacking zip.

We'd have won if we could defend . We scored a lovely goal . Successful teams see that out .

Yeah maybe, but our attacking out put in the league has dropped off and that in turn puts pressure on the ailing defensive side of our game.

[VillaTim]

The only silver lining is that despite our frailties and lack of attacking options we are very mich in touch with the top 5 places and January is two weeks away.

No chance top 5 unless we sort that mess out at the back.

It’s not just defensive play, our attacking play is really lacking zip.

We'd have won if we could defend . We scored a lovely goal . Successful teams see that out .

Yeah maybe, but our attacking out put in the league has dropped off and that in turn puts pressure on the ailing defensive side of our game.

Unfortunately Bailey 2.0 showed up this season. Bidace looks a rabbit in the headlights . We miss Diabys pace . That said we should have seen that out today . 1-0 up on 87 mins and losing is ridiculously poor . No leadership , bollocks or spine , pathetic weak defending and stupidity , manager included .

[Percy McCarthy]

I’m more concerned we are not anywhere near the attacking threat that we were. Losing Diaby and Dougie has hit us hard on that department. If we had as much threat as last season, our defence doesn’t have to be as water tight.

Good point.

[langleylions]

So near and yet so far. Disappointing but not the end of the world. Put it right next weekend and it will be Onwards & Upwards!

Sadly, we keep saying 'put it right' but the same shit defending keeps rearing it's head. That's four terrible goals given away in the last two games.

I reckon with that defence, we looking at 7th -10th with about 55 points this year
[/quote
Shut the fuck up you prick ...you dont know what your talking about

[PaulWinch again]

I’m more concerned we are not anywhere near the attacking threat that we were. Losing Diaby and Dougie has hit us hard on that department. If we had as much threat as last season, our defence doesn’t have to be as water tight.

Good point.

Yep it’s not just our defensive play, our attack looks ponderous. The fact Cash is playing wide right with one injury shows how short we are of effective options. It’s a real gap.