Nottingham Forest vs Aston Villa post-match thread

[London Villan]

What I don't understand is that for large parts of games we pass the ball around the back, keeping control of it, hardly trying to attack. Then twice this season winning heading into the last few minutes, Konsa decides to try high-risk passes into attacking positions, rather than recycling the ball.

Just poor game management.

[SoccerHQ]

The defence IS a fucking shambles though. Nearly two goals a game conceded for the whole of 2024. Piss poor.

People are saying this a lot and I know conceding twice a game most weeks isn't a great tactic but isn't that just the way modern football is. Playing out from the back is inevitably going to lead to some mistakes and goals.

Konsa should've just booted the ball up the line instead of continually passing to Cash but guess when we're training every day in the manner to play out it just becomes a second nature habit.

Mostly you look at the top teams though and bar Arsenal I don't think anyone are that good defensively if you properly test them.

Don't have to go into Spurs but Man. City have collapsed defensively without one player just like we did with Kamara getting injured. Liverpool have kept two clean sheets in their last eight which is a mediocre record for the league leaders.

Seems one of the sides that has kept the most clean sheets in 2024 are Everton but no one wants to watch a side set up by Dyche.

[ChicagoLion]

Emery completely outdone by Nuno.

Ridiculous statement.

One manager made subs that changed the game, the other made subs that made us worse. How ridiculous.

He brought on Onana, Watkins and Maatsen.. how could anybody complain about that at the time?

It was more about who he took off, Kamara why, all Roger’s did for the last 20 was lose the ball.
The game was won, but the subs did not help us.

[langleylions]

Wtf is that bullshit

[adrenachrome]

The defence IS a fucking shambles though. Nearly two goals a game conceded for the whole of 2024. Piss poor.

Mings was ill.

You would think a CL team would have alternatives against a physical team, but we don't.

[London Villan]

At a point in the second half we had five defenders and two defensive midfielders on the pitch and still couldn't hold on.

[PaulWinch again]

Europe is obviously a huge demand, but it does mean we need to be so much better at gritting out results. A point here would have been fine, to ship two goals like we did was really poor.

[Ian.]

I’m more concerned we are not anywhere near the attacking threat that we were. Losing Diaby and Dougie has hit us hard on that department. If we had as much threat as last season, our defence doesn’t have to be as water tight.

[Clampy]

Just seen the goals fuck me this defence us fucking embarrassment.  If they had 9-5 jobs they would be sacked for being so shit.

Ill happily  replace the lot of them come the summer.

Can someone please bring back the team of 2023 to replace this Blues one of 2024 that cant defend to save their lives please?

Oh dear.

That’s ridiculously stupid. We’re doing fantastic in the Champions League and not bad in the league.

Doing well in CLz- how we doing in league ian? Tell me how thats 'ridiculously stupid' ?

Also please present factually how we are defensively better this year than 2023?

I said a while back I cringe at your posts and I still do. 'Replace the whole lot in the summer' . I'd be embarassed if I even thought that never mind post it.

[Demitri_C]

Just seen the goals fuck me this defence us fucking embarrassment.  If they had 9-5 jobs they would be sacked for being so shit.

Ill happily  replace the lot of them come the summer.

Can someone please bring back the team of 2023 to replace this Blues one of 2024 that cant defend to save their lives please?

Oh dear.

That’s ridiculously stupid. We’re doing fantastic in the Champions League and not bad in the league.

Doing well in CLz- how we doing in league ian? Tell me how thats 'ridiculously stupid' ?

Also please present factually how we are defensively better this year than 2023?

Sixth. I'd settle for that at the end of the season all things considered.

Id be thrilled with 6th Dave based on seeing how this teams been performing in the league.

Dont think we are good for top 5 i am afraid. Results like today are massive backwards  step as a club. One offs ok accepted but we be defending thia badly a majority  of season in league. Even at Leipzig  it was a shambles at times

[Paul.S]

Just got back. That was unforgivable and unacceptable defending. We controlled most of the game and then bang!
We give away goals that a Sunday league team would get frustrated at and we were given a warning before with the disallowed goal. I think we’ve got to accept that it won’t get any better until we get the chance to improve in either January or the summer. It’s virtually on a game by game basis and we tried to do it in Leipzig as well.
There’s not a chance we get anywhere near the top 6 if it doesn’t improve.

[rob_bridge]

What I don't understand is that for large parts of games we pass the ball around the back, keeping control of it, hardly trying to attack. Then twice this season winning heading into the last few minutes, Konsa decides to try high-risk passes into attacking positions, rather than recycling the ball.

Just poor game management.

Sums it up. 90% time it is fine - the problem is this season the 10% has cost us disproportionately. Unlike the previous 18 months, mostly

[London Villan]

The only silver lining is that despite our frailties and lack of attacking options we are very mich in touch with the top 5 places and January is two weeks away.

[passport1]

So near and yet so far. Disappointing but not the end of the world. Put it right next weekend and it will be Onwards & Upwards!

[Demitri_C]

Just seen the goals fuck me this defence us fucking embarrassment.  If they had 9-5 jobs they would be sacked for being so shit.

Ill happily  replace the lot of them come the summer.

Can someone please bring back the team of 2023 to replace this Blues one of 2024 that cant defend to save their lives please?

Oh dear.

That’s ridiculously stupid. We’re doing fantastic in the Champions League and not bad in the league.

Doing well in CLz- how we doing in league ian? Tell me how thats 'ridiculously stupid' ?

Also please present factually how we are defensively better this year than 2023?

I said a while back I cringe at your posts and I still do. 'Replace the whole lot in the summer' . I'd be embarassed if I even thought that never mind post it.

Na you just want to argue. I could say the skys blue and you would "cringe" at it or have a issue with it.  Whatever floats your boat the cringer 🙃