Nottingham Forest vs Aston Villa post-match thread

[devilla]

Disappointing but Kamara was outstanding again.

Yes he certainly was so I'm baffled as to why he was subbed for Barkley on 90 minutes. If you can't win it don't lose it and I think if he'd still been on we probably wouldn't have lost that.

Their second stemmed from a long ball from Konsa I think into their half when there was a pass that would've kept possession. We lose it and they go on to score. It's brainless defending and it has to stop.

[olaftab]

I hate it, absolutely hate it when this happens. It’s going to be a miserable week till Saturday.

[Ian.]

Personally I thought they were very good, they kept the ball well, very physical and direct. At times we were ok, but we seem to lack ideas going forward. They are a very good side this season and have impressed me numerous times.

Not sure what you were watching. Forest looked like rubbish. Possession, sure, but little else.

Wood was a threat, also two stunning saves from Emi. I thought they were very good, always played with intent, where I thought we played too conservative.

[PaulWinch again]

We were so poor. Deserved to lose it. We were really passive throughout. Think we went there with a draw in mind.

We fold far too easily, far too often. That’s on Emery and it needs sorting.

We have got no energy whatsoever when we are attacking, we are pedestrian and over-complicated. We try to play like a low quality Man City tribute act. It's just so predictable.

We have a collective heart the size of a pea, we are so easy to score against, it's untrue. Teams know if they push hard enough, they'll score against us.

The defence is a shambles and has been for months now. We've just about got away with it in the league - where there are almost no teams capable of any sort of consistency - so we are fortunate on that front, and in the Champions League we have done OK and largely seem to be buying ourselves time, but we have a few really significant problems, and Unai has got to solve them, and quickly.

I've had enough of the utter circus show which is right back, for example. I just don't get it, left back is seen as the most important thing of all but right back, well, it's a teenager or Matty fucking Cash.

it's just not on, and needs to get sorted in January, and at the start of it, not the last day.

I think that attacking point is key. It’s not like we’re sacrificing defensive solidity to flood forward in attack, we’re pretty bloody poor at all aspects at the moment. We’re very flat.

[VillaTim]

Taking Duran off seemed like the turning point to me

[KevinGage]

Genuinely brainless football from the Carlos-Cash-Konsa triumvirate there.

Maybe they're watching Netfix on their phones when Emery is going through this detailed video analysis. Which has obv helped us so much defensively this year.

[eamonn]

Players are letting us down in the league. Simple as that. They are all weak at the knees for the champions league and can't get up for it in the league. Reminds me a bit of 1997-98 when we saved our best for Europe

You, or someone else, said this a few weeks ago. I don't think it's as straightforward as that. More that the PL is a more difficult competition until you get to the knock-outs in the CL.

[Villafirst]

Pity Mings pulled out with illness before the start. If he'd have played we would've been far stronger defensively. He's a leader and can organise the defence.

He didn't play at all last season and we finished fourth, it goes deeper than that

We lack that steel and leadership at the back. Stupid passing twice on the edge of our box. If only Konsa had've just whacked it down the wing to clear that led to the 2nd goal!

[eamonn]

Here’s the thing, Emery will probably say we were in control of the game and they didn’t pose much of a threat and he’s mostly right. However, we all knew this would probably happen and the fact that it does and it’s all so predictable and we can’t change it is the most frustrating part.

Yep, wanged on about how brilliant we controlled things for 70 minutes. I wish he gave his interviews in Spanish. I hate listening to his bad grammar when we lose.

[Risso]

Players are letting us down in the league. Simple as that. They are all weak at the knees for the champions league and can't get up for it in the league. Reminds me a bit of 1997-98 when we saved our best for Europe

You, or someone else, said this a few weeks ago. I don't think it's as straightforward as that. More that the PL is a more difficult competition until you get to the knock-outs in the CL.

That was me I think. Because of the league format in the CL, teams don't have to go full bore every game. That isn't true in the PL.

[Exeter 77]

We are lacking someone with genuine pace. Last season we had Diaby to stretch teams if we needed to play the ball long and his pace hasn't been replaced. At least not yet. PSR is stopping us progressing in that respect.

[eamonn]

We're still only 3 pts off top 4.

Could be 5 after tomorrow, but I still think we can qualify for the CL.

Badly need to sort the defence out though.

Man City next. We know how accommodating we are at ending bad runs. And then Brighton who are as Jekyll & Hyde as us.

[Risso]

Emery completely outdone by Nuno.

Ridiculous statement.

One manager made subs that changed the game, the other made subs that made us worse. How ridiculous.

[Risso]

I hate it, absolutely hate it when this happens. It’s going to be a miserable week till Saturday.

You think us playing Man City is going to put a smile back on your face?

[LukeJames]

Weak as piss, mentally and physically. They had nothing up until their dissalowed goal and then we shit ourselves every time they attacked.