Nottingham Forest vs Aston Villa post-match thread

[Olneythelonely]

We were so poor. Deserved to lose it. We were really passive throughout. Think we went there with a draw in mind.

We fold far too easily, far too often. That’s on Emery and it needs sorting.

[Ian.]

Personally I thought they were very good, they kept the ball well, very physical and direct. At times we were ok, but we seem to lack ideas going forward. They are a very good side this season and have impressed me numerous times.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

We're still only 3 pts off top 4.

Could be 5 after tomorrow, but I still think we can qualify for the CL.

Badly need to sort the defence out though.

While we're at it can we also sort out the midfield as they're no where near the standards of last season. Knackered after a midweek game? Don't bloody play them. Tielemans may as well not have been on the pitch and second half you could see McGinn's batteries collapsing as he started going around and around in bloody circles.

Sort it out, Unai!
As for our attack it's praying for a moment of magic or trying to win a penalty.

[KevinGage]

Win that tonight and pinch another win before the turn of the year and you'd be looking at nine wins by the halfway stage.

Despite playing so so in the league. 

Repeat that in the second half of the campaign and 4th/5th is in sight.

Yes we're still 6th tonight.

But I don't see a side with as many shortcomings as we possess operating towards the top end of the table in April/May. 

[geolex]

Pity Mings pulled out with illness before the start. If he'd have played we would've been far stronger defensively. He's a leader and can organise the defence.

He didn't play at all last season and we finished fourth, it goes deeper than that

[Rudy65]

I have no idea why Konsa just didnt welly it up the pitch instead of putting cash under more pressure he needed .      We just love giving them the ball back in dangerous areas.

Completely agree. You’re under pressure in the last minute so just boot it clear. Madness

[PaulWinch again]

No that’s just it, the league position is ok. But no one watching us, particularly tonight, can look at that and think we’re a side who’s going to compete at the top. We need to improve a lot at both ends of the pitch.

[Rudy65]

Personally I thought they were very good, they kept the ball well, very physical and direct. At times we were ok, but we seem to lack ideas going forward. They are a very good side this season and have impressed me numerous times.

The difference was they had width that delivered via Hudson Odoi and Elanga. We had Cash who didn’t

[pauliewalnuts]

We were so poor. Deserved to lose it. We were really passive throughout. Think we went there with a draw in mind.

We fold far too easily, far too often. That’s on Emery and it needs sorting.

We have got no energy whatsoever when we are attacking, we are pedestrian and over-complicated. We try to play like a low quality Man City tribute act. It's just so predictable.

We have a collective heart the size of a pea, we are so easy to score against, it's untrue. Teams know if they push hard enough, they'll score against us.

The defence is a shambles and has been for months now. We've just about got away with it in the league - where there are almost no teams capable of any sort of consistency - so we are fortunate on that front, and in the Champions League we have done OK and largely seem to be buying ourselves time, but we have a few really significant problems, and Unai has got to solve them, and quickly.

I've had enough of the utter circus show which is right back, for example. I just don't get it, left back is seen as the most important thing of all but right back, well, it's a teenager or Matty fucking Cash.

it's just not on, and needs to get sorted in January, and at the start of it, not the last day.

[Taylor]

Emery completely outdone by Nuno.

Ridiculous statement.

[dorsetvillian]

It was poor from Konsa. He never gets subjected to much stick for his defensive abilities because of Pau, Diego and Cash. 100% he should have put the ball down the line. He didn't cover himself in glory for the first Forest goal either. A header coming from the right side of the six yard box, the zone he should be marking.

[VillaTim]

-1 GD .
the worst in the top 13 .
Shambolic .

[pelty]

Personally I thought they were very good, they kept the ball well, very physical and direct. At times we were ok, but we seem to lack ideas going forward. They are a very good side this season and have impressed me numerous times.

Not sure what you were watching. Forest looked like rubbish. Possession, sure, but little else.

[Rudy65]

Win that tonight and pinch another win before the turn of the year and you'd be looking at nine wins by the halfway stage.

Despite playing so so in the league. 

Repeat that in the second half of the campaign and 4th/5th is in sight.

Yes we're still 6th tonight.

But I don't see a side with as many shortcomings as we possess operating towards the top end of the table in April/May.

I predicted 8th at the start of the season and stand by that. Too many shortcomings in defence and no width going forward

[Martyn Smith]

It does make me ruefully smile a bit on here when we criticise the standard of refereeing then can't ourselves decide whether decisions were correct or not...