The FA Cup (Other football)

[HolteL4]

Everything is Heck's fault according to most on here -  the 150th anniversary game has been chosen by a honorary board which includes Brian, Dennis and Ian Taylor, maybe next time you all see them tell them to f... off!!

Hopefully the ground will be packed and at the prices that have been quoted, I think it will be (I have brought a ticket)

I like a moan but some take it to a new level!!

What a load of rubbish, some people on here will accept any load of rubbish the club tells them.  If that was the case it'd have been advertised this way the moment we was drawn at home. Whereas all of a sudden they've started advertising it as the 150th celebration.

Open your eyes they've done this because no 1 is buying tickets and are treating the fans as gullible idiots. To make it even more obvious they have changed the season ticket seat claim dates. It's so obvious it's unreal but some will believe anything Heck and the club tells them, and that is why Heck is behaving this way.

Something called footy headlines on twitter broke the story early in November,

What’s to believe? I can take the kids to the party without breaking the bank (less than a league game on my own) and I won’t have to be hovering over the laptop at a certain time to make sure I get tickets, plus they haven’t got to get up for school in the morning. It’s a chance for people who can’t afford/can’t access PL & CL tickets to go.

Early in November, that's why it's taken until 15th December for Villa to announce it and have to extend the season ticket seat claim date. I understand your reasons for going that's fine but clearly you're in the minority which is why Villa have resorted to this clear and obvious money grab

Cheap LC & FAC tickets = money grab.

Expensive PL & CL tickets = money grab.

I wonder if maybe they’re trying to raise as much revenue as possible from 42,000 seats and setting prices according to how to do that in the context of each particular game.

Champions league was always going to sell out so charged a fortune knowing it would sell regardless.

FA Cup wasn't selling so he decided to fabricate a 150th anniversary special match in order to blackmail people into taking up their seat it couldn't be more obvious they changed the season ticket seat claim date for crying out loud you don't do that if it's not a spur of the moment decision because no one is buying tickets. Honestly if the club said the sky was green some of our fans would believe them

As I said in my first post - ‘regardless of Heck’s motivation’. It may well be a spur of the moment decision, although one has to admire the guessing skills of the ‘Footy Headlines’ site, which flagged up in November that we would celebrate the anniversary at an FA Cup game in January.

Again, regardless of Heck’s motivation, it suits me and my family and makes the game more accessible to loads more people.

Do you think it should be more expensive? Would you prefer us to get a smaller crowd? I’m interested to know what you’d change about it.

No I think he should stop treating fans like gullible idiots.  100% spur of the moment and if you can't see it that you're part of the problem. Villa was formed November 1874, 1st game is hearsay which Heck has used to bullshit his way to trick some of our fanbase into buying tickets that they wasn't going to.

So far Heck has scrapped the badge claiming it was a 1 off to celebrate our 41st anniversary (who celebrates a 41st anniversary) despite in the survey that wasn't mentioned and the badge not looking like the 1982 badge. He's also scrapped the new North Stand, then gone about raising prices to ridiculous levels saying he has to to bridge the gap to the teams we are competing with, but the prices won't mean nothing in a few years when we have one of the smallest stadiums in the top flight because of HIS decision.

Now he's celebrating our 150th year in out 151st year and some of our fanbase just lap it up. Don't worry when Hecks done with this one I'm sure he'll have something else for him to use to rinse even more money out of the gullible idiots in our fanbase, their must be an anniversary coming up that no one celebrates that he can choose to celebrate

[cdbearsfan]

There is virtually no evidence for the November date. I've no issue with them trying to encourage fans to go to a match they might otherwise have chosen not to.

[HolteL4]

There is virtually no evidence for the November date. I've no issue with them trying to encourage fans to go to a match they might otherwise have chosen not to.

Virtually no evidence at all apart from less than 30 seconds using Google. You should give Google a go. Search Christopher Heck that's some interesting reading that is, the bloke is a wrong'un shame Edens And Sawiris didn't do research on him. But then I suppose there's virtually no evidence there either


https://www.forclubandcountry.org.uk/aston-villa/#:~:text=Aston%20Villa%20Football%20Club%20was,Price%20and%20William%20Scattergood

[cdbearsfan]

That's not evidence. The November date was made up a few years ago after some fairly spurious research and has been adopted as official since.

I'm no fan of Heck when he wants to "reward" my loyal support by charging exorbitant fees for Champions League games. When he wants to pack the ground out at £25 a pop? Fair enough.

[dave.woodhall]

There is virtually no evidence for the November date. I've no issue with them trying to encourage fans to go to a match they might otherwise have chosen not to.

Virtually no evidence at all apart from less than 30 seconds using Google. You should give Google a go. Search Christopher Heck that's some interesting reading that is, the bloke is a wrong'un shame Edens And Sawiris didn't do research on him. But then I suppose there's virtually no evidence there either


https://www.forclubandcountry.org.uk/aston-villa/#:~:text=Aston%20Villa%20Football%20Club%20was,Price%20and%20William%20Scattergood

"After much speculation, control was taken by London financier Pat Matthews, who chose Doug Ellis as president. Nevertheless, the new owner failed to avoid relegation to the Third Division at the end of the 1969-1970 championship. In 1971-1972 there was a return to the Second Division, awarded the record of points (70) for the tournament. In 1973 Ron Saunders was appointed as the new manager and in 1977 the club returned to the top division and European cups."

I wouldn't set much store by that site.

[HolteL4]

That's not evidence. The November date was made up a few years ago after some fairly spurious research and has been adopted as official since.

I'm no fan of Heck when he wants to "reward" my loyal support by charging exorbitant fees for Champions League games. When he wants to pack the ground out at £25 a pop? Fair enough.

Price is irrelevant in this case accepting his bullshit is. 1874 is on our badge under Heck we've had 2 badges and 1874 has been on both so whether November is spurious 1874 isn't.

Clearly priced it thinking it'd sell but it didn't but he couldn't ramp up the prices (100% guarantee he would if he could have) so did the next best thing and created some bullshit about a  1st registered game which 100% can't be proven (unlike 1874). He'll get away with it because gullible idiots will fall for it which and then Heck will know doesn't matter what he does people will fall for his bullshit

[dave.woodhall]

That's not evidence. The November date was made up a few years ago after some fairly spurious research and has been adopted as official since.

I'm no fan of Heck when he wants to "reward" my loyal support by charging exorbitant fees for Champions League games. When he wants to pack the ground out at £25 a pop? Fair enough.

Price is irrelevant in this case accepting his bullshit is. 1874 is on our badge under Heck we've had 2 badges and 1874 has been on both so whether November is spurious 1874 isn't.

Clearly priced it thinking it'd sell but it didn't but he couldn't ramp up the prices (100% guarantee he would if he could have) so did the next best thing and created some bullshit about a  1st registered game which 100% can't be proven (unlike 1874). He'll get away with it because gullible idiots will fall for it which and then Heck will know doesn't matter what he does people will fall for his bullshit

Just out of interest, what do you think of Christian Benteke and Dean Smith?

[HolteL4]

I see we are selling a peice of the net that Duran scored in vs Bayern Munich for £60 and it's sold out. I rest my case we have some proper gullible idiots in our fanbase, whatever next £100 for some magic beans

[cdbearsfan]

Tbf the magic beans actually worked out quite well for Jack...

[Brazilian Villain]

I see we are selling a peice of the net that Duran scored in vs Bayern Munich for £60 and it's sold out. I rest my case we have some proper gullible idiots in our fanbase, whatever next £100 for some magic beans

Depends on the weight involved, but some of our less Google-savvy fans will think Kopi Luwak is our new right-back.

[Percy McCarthy]

There is virtually no evidence for the November date. I've no issue with them trying to encourage fans to go to a match they might otherwise have chosen not to.

Virtually no evidence at all apart from less than 30 seconds using Google. You should give Google a go. Search Christopher Heck that's some interesting reading that is, the bloke is a wrong'un shame Edens And Sawiris didn't do research on him. But then I suppose there's virtually no evidence there either


https://www.forclubandcountry.org.uk/aston-villa/#:~:text=Aston%20Villa%20Football%20Club%20was,Price%20and%20William%20Scattergood

"After much speculation, control was taken by London financier Pat Matthews, who chose Doug Ellis as president. Nevertheless, the new owner failed to avoid relegation to the Third Division at the end of the 1969-1970 championship. In 1971-1972 there was a return to the Second Division, awarded the record of points (70) for the tournament. In 1973 Ron Saunders was appointed as the new manager and in 1977 the club returned to the top division and European cups."

I wouldn't set much store by that site.

Only a gullible idiot would believe any of that.

[Nev]

I have no problem with the Club trying to maximise revenue and pricing accordingly for this game but tossing away what could've been a really memorable occasion for a "few bucks" makes me think that nothing is off the table when it comes to money and that means stadium naming rights and the like.

Of course, it's a trade off but I'm rather old fashioned and some things are just not worth selling for success.

[Drummond]

It seems an odd game to pick. Fewer tickets for Villa fans, plenty of season ticket holders displaced, a competition we normally play a weakened side for, then add in an unfortunate kick-off time change and it becomes unsatisfactory for many.

It potentially gives opportunity for others, but there seems more downside than up.

[Drummond]

I see we are selling a peice of the net that Duran scored in vs Bayern Munich for £60 and it's sold out. I rest my case we have some proper gullible idiots in our fanbase, whatever next £100 for some magic beans

Perfect Christmas present. For many it was their first taste of the big European competition, and definitely worth it as a price of memorabilia.

[claret+blue ed]

Whilst I don't agree with the majority of the decisions made during Heck's tenure, I do seem to remember last summer they club said that the 150th anniversary celebrations would be spread out over the full season, so I would still expect more to come throughout the rest of the season, I also think I did read somewhere a while back that the would target an FA Cup match for part of the celebration, although I might be wrong with this

The cup games prices were set when the UCL prices were announced, so at least this isn't an upping of prices to make more money, it is a way of encouraging more people to attend the match at the set price that is substantially lower than PL or UCL matches, yes to make more revenue, but hopefully it will get people to attend who maybe wouldn't normally be able too

It's unfortunate that WH have taken up the option of extra tickets that may spoil any spectacle that we may have planned