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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #975 on: February 10, 2025, 10:03:33 PM »
It was never founded as an "English" league. Scotland started its own league in the 1890s but Wales didn't get around to founding one until 1992. The majority of Welsh clubs moved over to play in it but the bigger clubs stayed in the English system. A couple of Scottish clubs, Gretna and Annan Athletic, formerly played in the English non-league system.

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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #976 on: February 10, 2025, 10:04:28 PM »
A quick Google search shows Man United having 12 successive home cup draws. 4,096/1.

Over both competitions, not just the FA Cup. For that they have been drawn away more then home in the last 10 years so I expect there is a similar lengthy always away streak as well.

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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #977 on: February 10, 2025, 10:05:09 PM »
We've played Cardiff three times previously in the FAC. Lost 2-1 away 1927, won 6-1 at home 1929, lost 2-1 at home 1949.

The old adage which I grew up with and I’ve seen John Russell mention “The team that beats the Villa wins the Cup”

It was certainly true in 1927.

It certainly happened a fair few times!

1959 Forest 1960 Wolves 1961 Spurs 1962 Spurs 1963 Man United

1976 Southampton
1877 Manure

1948 Manchester United
1980 West Ham
1982 Spurs

I am sure loads more

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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #978 on: February 10, 2025, 10:06:15 PM »
Why do Cardiff get permission to play in English leagues anyway ? Is it because like Swansea they have outgrown the Welsh Leagues?
How come Scottish Teams like Celtic and Rangers don’t get to play in England leagues?
Great question

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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #979 on: February 10, 2025, 10:06:51 PM »
A quick Google search shows Man United having 12 successive home cup draws. 4,096/1.

They we’re away to Arsenal in the 3rd round. Of the FA Cup, a month ago.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2025, 10:12:17 PM by Olneythelonely »

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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #980 on: February 10, 2025, 10:07:29 PM »
Sure we can make a team…fill the gaps

GK Enkelman
RB Delaney
LB
CB Chambers
CB
RW El Ghazi
CM
CM
LW Whittingham
ST
ST

Bench - Bacuna :-)

So on and so on….

Joe Bennett at left-back. James Collins next to Chambers.

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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #981 on: February 10, 2025, 10:07:57 PM »
A quick Google search shows Man United having 12 successive home cup draws. 4,096/1.

Over both competitions, not just the FA Cup. For that they have been drawn away more then home in the last 10 years so I expect there is a similar lengthy always away streak as well.

They beat Shrewsbury who previously had the record with 11. Anyone like to guess who had the record before that with 10. Go on, you know the answer…






….Aston Villa.

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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #982 on: February 10, 2025, 10:09:24 PM »
A quick Google search shows Man United having 12 successive home cup draws. 4,096/1.
Great stat . Unbelievable really is .

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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #983 on: February 10, 2025, 10:10:28 PM »
It was never founded as an "English" league. Scotland started its own league in the 1890s but Wales didn't get around to founding one until 1992. The majority of Welsh clubs moved over to play in it but the bigger clubs stayed in the English system. A couple of Scottish clubs, Gretna and Annan Athletic, formerly played in the English non-league system.
Interesting. Thanks.
I wondered if they have more pedigree than Scottish players at top level . Historically I mean and abroad.
I remember hearing on a podcast the greatest British player to succeed overseas was a Welshman . John Charles at Juventus. Gareth Bale at Real Madrid won things but didn’t have the same impact as Charles did when he was in Italy
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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #984 on: February 10, 2025, 10:11:10 PM »
The best Villa v Cardiff game I've been to was Boxing Day 1968. Tommy Docs 2nd game in charge, over 40k in the ground. The beginning of the revolution.




Note the Cardiff team included John Toshack. Also Mel Sutton, who was on the Villa books but didnt make it to the first team.


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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #985 on: February 10, 2025, 10:11:51 PM »
A quick Google search shows Man United having 12 successive home cup draws. 4,096/1.
Great stat . Unbelievable really is .

So unbelievable, that it isn’t true.

Unless the stat is that it once happened. Then it is true but not slightly unbelievable. Other teams have had similar runs. Us being one of them.

« Last Edit: February 10, 2025, 10:14:48 PM by Olneythelonely »

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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #986 on: February 10, 2025, 10:12:36 PM »
A quick Google search shows Man United having 12 successive home cup draws. 4,096/1.
Great stat . Unbelievable really is .

People used to say that about us when we held the record. “A thousand to one odds” they’d say, “it must be a fix” they’d say.

Maybe we stopped bribing the FA and Shrewsbury took over. Then when Man U got in on the act even the Shrews were outbid.

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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #987 on: February 10, 2025, 10:15:21 PM »
1976 Southampton
1877 Manure

1948 Manchester United
1980 West Ham
1982 Spurs

I am sure loads more

2000 Chelsea
2015 Arsenal

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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #988 on: February 10, 2025, 10:16:18 PM »
Stevenage 2023. I still marvel at them winning the cup.

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Re: The FA Cup - R5 Cardiff (H) - now with reset poll
« Reply #989 on: February 10, 2025, 10:17:59 PM »
We need to get drawn against ourselves, beat ourselves and therefore then be guaranteed to go on and win the Cup.

 


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