Bruges v Aston Villa PMT.

[Taylor]

I seem to remember that a lot of people were suggesting that Diaby was off form for a lot of last season. Anyway tonight was awful, but a lot of teams have poor spells, I trust Uni to sort it out.
 I would also like to mention that Konsa and mings were trying to tell the team to slow the game down, at the time I thought it was the right call, coz Bruges were really getting a head of steam, and the crowd noise was building.

[Demitri_C]

We've started looking really pedestrian on the ball and lack a cutting edge.

I have a feeling it was like this after Arsenal at home last season and we never really recovered from it? It’s like it’s a performance fatigue or something.

Either way, I think I’ll try and avoid our trip to Anfield. Right now, the thought is about as enjoyable as a visit to the proctologist - or getting a camera up the old boy at the Urologist. Neither of which I fancy right now…

I do fancy another glass of wine though. To ease the pain of tonight. And the collective pain of the last couple of weeks of Villa induced anguish.

Yeah im thinking to just fuck it off as well. Just cant be asked for them to ruin my weekend again

[Beard82]

Fortuantely Im working at a charity fireworks event on Saturday - so will miss the liverpool joy.  I think we just need to get through it and regroup.

Been a bad day - this, and had to pick my son up from school, which transpires the route cause is some kid giving him shit.  My advice of - just twat the knob - then lead to an arguement with Mrs Beard.  Also stepped on dogs shit my the acces sroad for the fourth time in five weeks - which always seems to trigger me. 

So having a beer than going to bed. 

Well turn this round - we have a world class coach - we might not have it right at the moment, but it will get sorted sooner or later.  The worst it will ever be under Unai is one step back to make two forward. 

[Demitri_C]

Its been a fucking awful 10 days

Exit of a cup

Battered in league by fucking spurs (again)

Then embarrassed by brugges tonight.  Dropping from 1st to 8th. All thw good work undone.

This feels like a gerrard  week 🙁

[VillaTim]

I almost fell asleep first half having started work early then raced home to watch that . I wish i had fallen asleep , utter shite.
Confirmation again that Konsa isn't a RB , Maatsen looks a worse version of Moreno with absolutely no thought of doing anything than pass the ball back .
McGinn looks finished at this level, love the bloke but it's not looking good . there was zero leadership out there tonight, is McGinn captain ?
The players don't look happy , what's happened

[SamTheMouse]

That was a massive pile of cack. Kamara worked his socks off and did well. I felt sorry for him, surrounded as he was by a bunch of talented teammates playing like total divs.

Wtf was Mings playing at?

[john2710]

Our only attacking threat seams to be to find Rogers in midfield & hope he can turn & run at the opposition defence. If teams sit deep we don't have the ability or speed of movement to open teams up.

Watkins is totally isolated but Watkins & Duran together doesn't work.

Tielemans never gets into the box the way Luiz used to. By the time we stroll forward with the ball the opposition are set defensively. When we do create chances we're not clinical enough.

Too many of our attacking player are out of form.

[Percy McCarthy]

Carlos is a clown, Konsa at RB  🤬.

Your desperation for us not to play by far our most efficient defence is bordering on obsession.

Does it stretch to wanting Olsen in goal?

Efficient? Carlos is an imbecile

Carlos can be brilliant but equally can be poor .
Konsa simply isn't a RB and offers next to nothing going forwards down that side

1 decent game in 10 is his level. One of their first attacks tonight, he has to get too tight and gives away a stupid free kick in a dangerous area. Mings gets booked, he simply has to get stuck into the ref and get booked for dissent. The countless amount of times he booted possession away under no pressure tonight. He's terrible!

Late on, Emery finally has enough and hooks him moving Konsa across. This is like the Duran/Watkins issue, how many times do we have to see Konsa and Carlos make a show of themselves, especially against weaker opposition, to say no more. We are basically wasting subs correcting terrible selection decisions.

Matty Cash, come back all is forgiven!

Translation: we need to concede more goals.

Any facts? I’ll wait.

We will keep conceding them in the manner of the past week with Carlos in the team and our best CB shoved out to RB to accommodate him. With the ball, Konsa at RB is where the ball goes to die and Carlos simply can't play.

Thought not. Never is. Just the famously wonky opinions that you are well-known for on here.

Facts oppose your ‘argument’, which is why you avoid them I suppose.

Avoid arguments?...pull up more wonky stats then. Goals conceded this season, Cash on the pitch v not on the pitch - how are we faring out?

Avoid facts.

Cash on the pitch v not on the pitch isn’t very telling is it? He’s hardly played, although he’s still managed to concede a penalty. You must think Mings was brilliant last season.

As you were talking about how awful Carlos is, and how bad Konsa is at right back, I’ll talk about when they’ve played in those positions.

Second half v Young Boys.
Bayern.
Wolves.
Ipswich.
Bologna.
Half hour v Spurs.
Tonight.

Carlos AND Cash (seeing as you brought him up)  helped keep a clean sheet against Man Utd.

I listed all the clean sheets since the start of last season previously.

13 for the defence you don’t rate.
6 for the defence you do.

I listed all the goals conceded last season previously.

32 for the defence you don’t rate.
45 for the defence you do.

Big differences.

[SamTheMouse]

I said on Sunday that 4-4-2 is shit and that it's clear Watkins and Duran don't work together up front. It just means we have less possession and control in midfield, and they end up running around pointlessly.

But I also said that at least Emery wouldn't be trying that again. I genuinely don't understand why he did.

If this is about trying to keep both strikers happy, it's not going to end well.

[BC54 VFC]

The team have just landed back at EMA, after a flight that took just 39 minutes, so following from the rest they had earlier this evening, they'll be well rested and full of beans for Saturday evening.

[VillaTim]

Duran is starting to look like a flash in the pan, completely random player with a seriously questionable attitude . I wonder if his new contract has destroyed morale in the camp

[VillaTim]

The team have just landed back at EMA, after a flight that took just 39 minutes, so following from the rest they had earlier this evening, they'll be well rested and full of beans for Saturday evening.

why didn't they go BHX , that's a stretch of the M42 now that can be quite tiring at night for them

[V1lla]

BHX runway closed.
Feel for the Villa fans having to do that M42 extra tonight, and then work in the morning.

[kippaxvilla2]

They’ll take tomorrow off.  Then back in to prepare for Liverpool on Friday.  They’ve had a nice extra day and at home.

[VillaTim]

BHX runway closed.
Feel for the Villa fans having to do that M42 extra tonight, and then work in the morning.

BHX closed ?? Why