Bruges v Aston Villa PMT.

[VillaTim]

Carlos is a clown, Konsa at RB  🤬.

Your desperation for us not to play by far our most efficient defence is bordering on obsession.

Does it stretch to wanting Olsen in goal?

Efficient? Carlos is an imbecile

Carlos can be brilliant but equally can be poor .
Konsa simply isn't a RB and offers next to nothing going forwards down that side

[Demitri_C]

Id put this down as bas as thw warsaw defeat.  Really poor and now puts us under pressure to beat juventus

It was worse.

Yeah your probably right as at least we scored a couple then. I think this is our worst result in europe under emery. Up there with stromgodset

[Clampy]

Carlos is a clown, Konsa at RB  🤬.

Your desperation for us not to play by far our most efficient defence is bordering on obsession.

Does it stretch to wanting Olsen in goal?

You can tell we've lost.

[Beard82]

Don't know if it has been mentioned but Gabriel did exactly the same as Mings in the Bayern v Arsenal QF last season. No penalty was given.

https://www.90min.com/mikel-arteta-why-gabriel-handball-did-not-lead-bayern-munich-penalty

Yeah - to be honest thats one is more blatent.  Either could be given / not given. at least in the scheme of things its not the end of the world.

football referring is subjective - thats its such a mess. 

[eamonn]

Brugges havent beaten a english team since the 90s. That tells you all you need ti know

And that was to a limited Chelsea team before they went all sexy with Rude Gullet, Luca Vialli (much-missed) et al. 1994/95 they were still the John Spencer Blues Implosion.

[Somniloquism]

I agree that it was a penalty, but this wasn't given earlier in the season in the same competition.

No qualms with either being given as penalties as they are almost exactly the same, but one was and one wasn't in the same season in the same competition.  The ref was waiting all night for his big moment and got it then. 

No real grumbles about the result overall.  We were poor throughout and kept on giving the ball away needlessly, so never got any real momentum going.

Last season against Leverkusen. So it might be that after that debacle, UEFA told all their refs not to allow it again.

But yes, we were poor throughout with them getting the best chances in both halves and us barely troubling them.

I don't actually know why we have suddenly stopped playing. It isn't "sussing the system" as such but too many players just are not with it anymore? Some ex-players have mentioned that being under Emery with his meetings can be mentally tiring after awhile and have left because of it. Against Brentford we were playing as well as we usually have up until the last 10 minutes. Then it all went to piss. Since then we have barely been an attacking force.

[Deano's Mullet]

Id put this down as bas as thw warsaw defeat.  Really poor and now puts us under pressure to beat juventus

It was worse.

Yeah your probably right as at least we scored a couple then. I think this is our worst result in europe under emery. Up there with stromgodset

If memory serves we beat Stromsgodset both games.

[brontebilly]

Carlos is a clown, Konsa at RB  🤬.

Your desperation for us not to play by far our most efficient defence is bordering on obsession.

Does it stretch to wanting Olsen in goal?

Efficient? Carlos is an imbecile

Carlos can be brilliant but equally can be poor .
Konsa simply isn't a RB and offers next to nothing going forwards down that side

1 decent game in 10 is his level. One of their first attacks tonight, he has to get too tight and gives away a stupid free kick in a dangerous area. Mings gets booked, he simply has to get stuck into the ref and get booked for dissent. The countless amount of times he booted possession away under no pressure tonight. He's terrible!

Late on, Emery finally has enough and hooks him moving Konsa across. This is like the Duran/Watkins issue, how many times do we have to see Konsa and Carlos make a show of themselves, especially against weaker opposition, to say no more. We are basically wasting subs correcting terrible selection decisions.

Matty Cash, come back all is forgiven!

[aj2k77]

Dog shit tonight. No penetration at all and our delivery in to the box was some of the worst I've seen in years. Time after time hitting the first player.

[aj2k77]

Id put this down as bas as thw warsaw defeat.  Really poor and now puts us under pressure to beat juventus

It was worse.

Yeah your probably right as at least we scored a couple then. I think this is our worst result in europe under emery. Up there with stromgodset

If memory serves we beat Stromsgodset both games.

A young Vassell came on and turned the home leg around didn't he?

[Percy McCarthy]

Carlos is a clown, Konsa at RB  🤬.

Your desperation for us not to play by far our most efficient defence is bordering on obsession.

Does it stretch to wanting Olsen in goal?

Efficient? Carlos is an imbecile

Yes, efficient. That defence concedes less goals than any you would puck. Care to argue with objective, provable truth?

[TonyD]

We played some incredible football against Bologna.
Then there was today. 
What has changed??

[Beard82]

In my non expert opinon, there is something not quite right in our approach currently.  Our build up isnt right - and were not good enough to play this walking football.  Very few players are - and we probably only have 2 or 3 that can.

I think its not helped by a number of important players being out of form and being a little short of options in some areas.  Meaning that if plan A doenst work - we have no plan b.

I dont think Watkins with another striker will ever work.  Either or - which is fine as they will both have plenty of chances, and easily get 20 a season.

We could do with sorting it pretty bloody soon.  Im sure Unai will, but this is the cloest to a slump we've had since hes been here.  Up until now - a bad result pretty much guarenteed a response.  But we've not been great for much of the season and pretty bloody poor since Ipswich.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I read on a Spanish forum that a club only gets 2 good seasons out of Emery. This isn't my opinion, just what I've read. I think the opposition have sussed our plan, and we ain't got a plan B.

It's bollox, so no need to stress. For a start, at Valencia he took a 10th place side to 6th, followed by 3rd x 3 seasons.

[Deano's Mullet]

Id put this down as bas as thw warsaw defeat.  Really poor and now puts us under pressure to beat juventus

It was worse.

Yeah your probably right as at least we scored a couple then. I think this is our worst result in europe under emery. Up there with stromgodset

If memory serves we beat Stromsgodset both games.

A young Vassell came on and turned the home leg around didn't he?

Yeah and Collymore got a hat trick in the second leg.