Villa v Palace Post Match Thread

[Demitri_C]

Yeah once kamara gets up to speed he should 100% be starting.

I like onana but he has been very inconsistent so far

[jon collett]

I was unable to find a stream last night so not able to watch the game.  Most comments on here suggest we were crap and Palce were the better team and deserved their win.  I’m struggling to reconcile that with the stats?!?

The difference in the stats is because they were playing on the break and we were playing our usual controlled possession build up.

In reality they looked a threat virtually every time they went forward and our defence was shaky and we carried little threat and were unable to break them down and resorted to long shots.

I never felt we were on top all night and when we made the final three subs we killed whatever chance we had as the midfield completely disappeared.

[N'ZMAV]

That was on Emery last night, I understand the selection, but a lot of fringe players together just don't know how to play together. Mings and MGinn did well. Kamara was decent. The rest just didn't really do anything.

Duran needs to improve his all round game, he spent too much of his energy moaning and rolling around the floor. He's not ready to start over Watkins yet.

[garyellis]

Commentators were praising Duran’s runs but they were not picked out by his team mates.

[wince]

I'm not going to overreact, but it is dispiriting to go out of yet another domestic cup.

It's not as simple as getting angry at team selection or individual mistakes, it's just the general apathy that seems to pervade our whole approach - from manager to players to some supporters.

The last ten winners of the League Cup have been:

Chelsea
Man City
Man Utd
Man City
Man City
Man City
Man City
Liverpool
Man Utd
Liverpool

All of those have won (or in Man City and Chelsea's case, bought) the League and the European Cup multiple times since we last won anything at all.

If they don't consider it beneath them to put the required effort in to win the League Cup, I don't see why we should.

This for me as well.

Would just love to see some silverware at some point before I die

[GarTomas]

Moscow was March? And the team had already reached the MON blowing out their arse as it was the same 12/13 players playing week in week out.

Losing Sunday would be a blow - mainly because I think we should be going to Spurs looking to win but the comparison with 9 games into the season vs approx 9 left is ridiculous

If we lose sunday its going to have signs of that famous Moscow episode

😂😂😂😂

What's  funny luke ?

Wasnt moscow the same reason resting players and utilising the squad then we didnt win the next game anyway? So i missed whats funny? Do share some insight

[garyellis]

So if we had got through we would have had an away tie at Arsenal.

[Demitri_C]

Moscow was March? And the team had already reached the MON blowing out their arse as it was the same 12/13 players playing week in week out.

Losing Sunday would be a blow - mainly because I think we should be going to Spurs looking to win but the comparison with 9 games into the season vs approx 9 left is ridiculous

If we lose sunday its going to have signs of that famous Moscow episode

😂😂😂😂

What's  funny luke ?

Wasnt moscow the same reason resting players and utilising the squad then we didnt win the next game anyway? So i missed whats funny? Do share some insight

Happy to engage in this debate as you challenge my point in a constructive way unlikw the previous poster.

The point i was trying to make was that we would have exited a cup for no reason if we lose sunday. Thats the comparison im talking about. Not fatigue as your allude to in your post (although correct at the time) lets not forget we almost missed out on CL as well! If MON didnt play a second string and just basicalky sacrifice europe we had a chance to win the cup.

Im pretty sure if we had a stronger bench yesterday at 1-1 we would have had enough options to change the game and win
 
Now we are out cant see how players like buendia are going to get many starts unless we pick up injuries. A extra game in this cup would have done them the world of good

[olaftab]

I'm not going to overreact, but it is dispiriting to go out of yet another domestic cup.

It's not as simple as getting angry at team selection or individual mistakes, it's just the general apathy that seems to pervade our whole approach - from manager to players to some supporters.

The last ten winners of the League Cup have been:

Chelsea
Man City
Man Utd
Man City
Man City
Man City
Man City
Liverpool
Man Utd
Liverpool

All of those have won (or in Man City and Chelsea's case, bought) the League and the European Cup multiple times since we last won anything at all.

If they don't consider it beneath them to put the required effort in to win the League Cup, I don't see why we should.

You say the most sensible things past the witching hour Rory. You can't pick and choose what you are going to win. It must always be take part to win mentality as shown by your listing.

[VillaTim]

I think Emery over-rotated last night. The likes of Barkley and Onana should not have been having a night off .

[aj2k77]

Ramsey hasn't played much football the last 12 months either.

[Demitri_C]

Ramsey hasn't played much football the last 12 months either.

That was the biggest suprise for me that he didnt come on as sub. Im convinced he is 100% starting Sunday along with cash

Think itvwill be konsa and pau at cb with cash at rb

[Flamingo Lane]

So if we had got through we would have had an away tie at Arsenal.

Not necessarily, we'd have been a differet number ball that may well have been shuffled differently into and around the bag/machine. So the whole draw may have been different.

[MalcolmP]

The Bayern win has papered over a lot of cracks . Our form is distinctly average and nowhere near good enough .

Yeah before tonight wasn’t it just the one match lost this season, and top of the champions league?

Terrible form.

I said distinctly average which it is - domestic form -
Palace 1-2
Bournemouth 1-1
Fulham 3-1
ManUtd 0-0
Ipswich 2-2

Last 5 league games we’re 5th in the league on form

  Liverpool 0 Forest 1? Bournemouth 2 Arsenal 0?   All the fickle fans, do you want David O'Leary or Gerrard back? FFS, we are top 4 and won 3 out of 3 in Champions League, but must admit  look at the poor opposition like Bayern Munich. Some on here don't deserve Unai.

[PeterWithesShin]

Frustrating. A chance of being a few wins from a trophy at last, with the best side in the competition out. It may not have been our strongest 11 but it wasn't a bunch of kids either. Apart from Gauci (if Emi is fit) everyone that started will be playing a number of times for us this season in the PL and CL and will be an important part in us doing well in both. They should have been capable of better.