Aston Villa v Bournemouth Post Match Thread.

[Percy McCarthy]

Cash was also covering the channel, though, wasn’t he? Either way, they shouldn’t have allowed so much space between them. Duran is watching the flight of the ball rather than the attacker, which is why he gets caught in no man’s land. Shame because, although it was a well-flighted ball, we didn’t make their striker work for the goal, and that may well have made the difference.

Having watched the highlights (the game seemed more even to me live than in the highlights package), we really threw it away with our wastefulness. Duran obviously for his sitter, but Ollie also had a couple of good chances and Rogers surely has to hit the target from his shot on the edge of the box.

It was 0-0 when Duran missed, so Barklay’s goal makes that irrelevant. Same with the ball going/not going out in reality.

[andyh]

I am still so pissed off about yesterday.
I’m avoiding any football or links or footage of the game.

[Percy McCarthy]

I am still so pissed off about yesterday.
I’m avoiding any football or links or footage of the game.

Understood, but watching MOTD, especially Brighton’s game, made me feel better. I’d have been thinking about throwing myself onto the tracks at Witton Station had that been us.

Which reminds me, public transport was decent yesterday. Stayed til the end of the game and got off the train at Marston Green at five past six.

[Olneythelonely]

Cash was also covering the channel, though, wasn’t he? Either way, they shouldn’t have allowed so much space between them. Duran is watching the flight of the ball rather than the attacker, which is why he gets caught in no man’s land. Shame because, although it was a well-flighted ball, we didn’t make their striker work for the goal, and that may well have made the difference.

Having watched the highlights (the game seemed more even to me live than in the highlights package), we really threw it away with our wastefulness. Duran obviously for his sitter, but Ollie also had a couple of good chances and Rogers surely has to hit the target from his shot on the edge of the box.

It was 0-0 when Duran missed, so Barklay’s goal makes that irrelevant. Same with the ball going/not going out in reality.

You can’t just ignore everything that happens before a goal though. If we’re wasteful in front of goal over 90 minutes, only score once and don’t win, our missed chances are definitely relevant.

[The Edge]

As good as we are at the moment we won't actually win anything until we can be more clinical with the amount of chances we create.

[VillaTim]

Cash was also covering the channel, though, wasn’t he? Either way, they shouldn’t have allowed so much space between them. Duran is watching the flight of the ball rather than the attacker, which is why he gets caught in no man’s land. Shame because, although it was a well-flighted ball, we didn’t make their striker work for the goal, and that may well have made the difference.

Having watched the highlights (the game seemed more even to me live than in the highlights package), we really threw it away with our wastefulness. Duran obviously for his sitter, but Ollie also had a couple of good chances and Rogers surely has to hit the target from his shot on the edge of the box.

It was 0-0 when Duran missed, so Barklay’s goal makes that irrelevant. Same with the ball going/not going out in reality.

You can’t just ignore everything that happens before a goal though. If we’re wasteful in front of goal over 90 minutes, only score once and don’t win, our missed chances are definitely relevant.

Ultimately that's what cost us yesterday - missing 3 gilt edged chances , as we rarely keep clean sheets so generally need 2 goals minimum

[darren woolley]

Definitely frustrated but we will learn from this.

[brontebilly]

Ceded control last ten minutes. Whether’s that fatigue or trying to defend what we had I don’t know. Not going to blame just Barkley as it was the third or fourth in a series of stupid fouls. Grrrrrr

Barkley, no.
Matty, yes - who was he supposed to be marking across the backline?
If he was stood right in front of the goalscorer he would have had an easy headed clearance, and still allowed him time to cover a late runner into the channels (if necessary).

I know some are desperate to have a go at Cash, if anything it's Duran who loses his man for the header.

Duran was behind the player, so normally the player in front will win the header - Matty was in front, but nowhere near him and the ball sails over his head, Matty was not marking anyone and a defensive wall was not necessary.

I was talking about it last night with someone who works in coaching.  He said that Cash would be positioned there normally to cover runners off the ball if they had two over the free kick.  As they didn’t, he said Cash should have been deeper to block off that space and you could see Emery and McPhee screaming that at him before the free kick was taken.  He also said Duran would take some of the blame as well as he didn’t pick the man up properly.

Thought the same...Cash was a bit too far forward but most blame has to go to Duran who was ball watching. Watkins defends that front post area very well, something Duran needs to learn. Id expect Martinez to have tipped it around the post too.

I thought Bailey was fortunate enough to avoid giving away that penalty.

[Percy McCarthy]

Cash was also covering the channel, though, wasn’t he? Either way, they shouldn’t have allowed so much space between them. Duran is watching the flight of the ball rather than the attacker, which is why he gets caught in no man’s land. Shame because, although it was a well-flighted ball, we didn’t make their striker work for the goal, and that may well have made the difference.

Having watched the highlights (the game seemed more even to me live than in the highlights package), we really threw it away with our wastefulness. Duran obviously for his sitter, but Ollie also had a couple of good chances and Rogers surely has to hit the target from his shot on the edge of the box.

It was 0-0 when Duran missed, so Barklay’s goal makes that irrelevant. Same with the ball going/not going out in reality.

You can’t just ignore everything that happens before a goal though. If we’re wasteful in front of goal over 90 minutes, only score once and don’t win, our missed chances are definitely relevant.

Maybe an early goal (McGinn’s for example) might have relaxed us and led to us having more space to score a second.  But the principle of a goal changing the game still applies. Barklay’s goal just led to panic, and there’s no reason to believe that Duran’s chance, had it gone in about a minute earlier, wouldn’t have led to the same. One thing is for sure - if he’d have scored and there had been a kick-off instead of a goal-kick, the circumstances leading to Barklay’s goal definitely wouldn’t have occurred.

[eamonn]

Shearer and Walcott both blamed Cash for the goal on MOTD.

[Risso]

Still really pissed off with us chucking it away yesterday. To be honest, our home Premier League form is a bit mediocre, and has been stretching back into the second half of last season.

[Demitri_C]

As good as we are at the moment we won't actually win anything until we can be more clinical with the amount of chances we create.

And can't keep a clean sheet in the league

[kippaxvilla2]

Wrong thread.

[RamboandBruno]

Watching MOTD this morning, Cash’s sliding tackle on Semenyo was a penalty, Bailey a tad lucky too with the handball, but we definitely got away with one with Cash, made me feel a bit better really.
If we get results against the better sides, this and the man utd result wont feel frustrating, spurs feels a really big game now.

On Cash, the things I’ve always liked about him, his whole heartedness, willingness to throw himself into a crunching tackle etc, are also ironically the things that are starting to make him more of a liability as the team transforms. He’s a really good player for us as we established ourselves in this league since 2020, whilst he can still ‘do a job’, i would much rather have Konsa there now for most games, whilst Ned gets up to speed.

[VillaTim]

This game and Ipswich away are the ones that really disappoint . More of this and you can forget top 4