Aston Villa v Bournemouth Post Match Thread.

[olaftab]

What pisses me off is that results like this and Man U , feed the narrative of lazy journalists who say that Villa will struggle to cope with CL and PL fixtures.

Yes, this pisses me off too.

However it is a factor. Evidence is there to see.

[brontebilly]

Martinez 6, Cash 6, Konsa 7, Torres 7, Digne 6, Onana 5, Tielemans 7, Ramsey 8, McGinn 7 , Rogers 4, Watkins 6.

Barkley scored a good goal but crazy decision to give freekick away cost us. Bailey got an assist but poor again that aside. Duran missed a sitter and was rubbish when we needed him. Can't remember much impact from Maatsen or Kamara. Not Emery's best day on the sideline, his final change unbalanced us late on.

Two points dropped, especially given it was probably the strongest matchday squad we have named in about 25 years.

[Monty]

Ceded control last ten minutes. Whether’s that fatigue or trying to defend what we had I don’t know. Not going to blame just Barkley as it was the third or fourth in a series of stupid fouls. Grrrrrr

Barkley, no.
Matty, yes - who was he supposed to be marking across the backline?
If he was stood right in front of the goalscorer he would have had an easy headed clearance, and still allowed him time to cover a late runner into the channels (if necessary).

I know some are desperate to have a go at Cash, if anything it's Duran who loses his man for the header.

I don't really think it's his fault alone for the goal or anything, but he is a liability and a weakness for us and the finely-tuned football we want to play.

[Percy McCarthy]

Ceded control last ten minutes. Whether’s that fatigue or trying to defend what we had I don’t know. Not going to blame just Barkley as it was the third or fourth in a series of stupid fouls. Grrrrrr

Barkley, no.
Matty, yes - who was he supposed to be marking across the backline?
If he was stood right in front of the goalscorer he would have had an easy headed clearance, and still allowed him time to cover a late runner into the channels (if necessary).

I know some are desperate to have a go at Cash, if anything it's Duran who loses his man for the header.

I don't really think it's his fault alone for the goal or anything, but he is a liability and a weakness for us and the finely-tuned football we want to play.

It’s just levels. We’d have loved his whole-hearted effort, even his ability, in many of our past few seasons. He’s probably our best RB since Kyle Walker. It just so happens that now even our centre-half is better there.

[Neil Hawkes]

Does Hawkeye only cover the goal ?

In this day and age it should covers all sides of the grounds - allowing the assistant refs to concentrate on offsides and fouls.
It works in tennis with a much smaller ball and higher speed of travel.

[PaulTheVillan]

I thought their penalty shout could have gone either way. Always seems to be Cash.

Was a blatant dive, their player didn't even complain when he got booked. But there was absolutely no need for Cash to go to ground in the first place. Idiotic free kick he gave away near the end too, not the only one. Thought Cash had a decent game in the main.

My point was more that if the referee gave it. I don’t think VAR would have overturned it. They’d have let the ref take the crap for a questionable decision

[Neil Hawkes]

Ceded control last ten minutes. Whether’s that fatigue or trying to defend what we had I don’t know. Not going to blame just Barkley as it was the third or fourth in a series of stupid fouls. Grrrrrr

Barkley, no.
Matty, yes - who was he supposed to be marking across the backline?
If he was stood right in front of the goalscorer he would have had an easy headed clearance, and still allowed him time to cover a late runner into the channels (if necessary).

I know some are desperate to have a go at Cash, if anything it's Duran who loses his man for the header.

Duran was behind the player, so normally the player in front will win the header - Matty was in front, but nowhere near him and the ball sails over his head, Matty was not marking anyone and a defensive wall was not necessary.

[tomd2103]

Ceded control last ten minutes. Whether’s that fatigue or trying to defend what we had I don’t know. Not going to blame just Barkley as it was the third or fourth in a series of stupid fouls. Grrrrrr

Barkley, no.
Matty, yes - who was he supposed to be marking across the backline?
If he was stood right in front of the goalscorer he would have had an easy headed clearance, and still allowed him time to cover a late runner into the channels (if necessary).

I know some are desperate to have a go at Cash, if anything it's Duran who loses his man for the header.

Duran was behind the player, so normally the player in front will win the header - Matty was in front, but nowhere near him and the ball sails over his head, Matty was not marking anyone and a defensive wall was not necessary.

I was talking about it last night with someone who works in coaching.  He said that Cash would be positioned there normally to cover runners off the ball if they had two over the free kick.  As they didn’t, he said Cash should have been deeper to block off that space and you could see Emery and McPhee screaming that at him before the free kick was taken.  He also said Duran would take some of the blame as well as he didn’t pick the man up properly.

[eye digress]

Cash was also covering the channel, though, wasn’t he? Either way, they shouldn’t have allowed so much space between them. Duran is watching the flight of the ball rather than the attacker, which is why he gets caught in no man’s land. Shame because, although it was a well-flighted ball, we didn’t make their striker work for the goal, and that may well have made the difference.

Having watched the highlights (the game seemed more even to me live than in the highlights package), we really threw it away with our wastefulness. Duran obviously for his sitter, but Ollie also had a couple of good chances and Rogers surely has to hit the target from his shot on the edge of the box.

[RamboandBruno]

Slept on it and sobered up as well. Reflecting, some of our build up play was a joy to watch, however, it did feel like ‘one of those games’ where, despite being the far superior team, it felt the game could get away from us. Hugely frustrating then that we looked like we were going to get it over the line.
I dont think anyone played particularly poorly and some, Tielemans, Konsa, Torres, Ramsey, were very good.

The one thing i would say is that we’re not quite as dynamic going forward as this time last year. I was sad enough last Sunday to look at the brief highlights of all our pre xmas home games from last year and Bailey, Diaby, Watkins, McGinn, Luiz, were ruthless going forwards and we were blowing teams away.

If we’re going to challenge the top 3, which I think we can, we are going to have to beat Spurs next week and then possibly get something at Anfield.

[Flamingo Lane]

That last 10 minutes or so yesterday reminded me very much of Brentford at home last season, when we went from 2-0 to 2-3 in the same amount of time. On both occasions we lost all shape and discipline, with the opposition focusing pretty much entirely down our right hand side, and no-one stepping in, or stepping up, to halt it.

[VillaTim]

Good job the ref blew up, another 5 mins we lose that game.

Anyway i think we will win at Spurs as the game with Spurs coming at us will suit our style .

[SaddVillan]

Re their equaliser.

Barkley had no need to commit the foul - Taverner was  heading down the touchline and Matty Cash had moved into position in front of him ready to slow him up and how him down the line.

Had that been the case, then Barkley would have been able to doubled up with Cash to either regain possession, force a throw in, or just run the clock down a bit more.

Neither Cash or Duran covered themselves in glory for the free kick. Not exactly sure what Cash was doing so far out and Duran obviously let Evanilson go unchallenged- needed to get much tighter.

Pretty sure Unai will have appropriate words with all concerned when he gets them back to BMH.

[Demitri_C]

Ceded control last ten minutes. Whether’s that fatigue or trying to defend what we had I don’t know. Not going to blame just Barkley as it was the third or fourth in a series of stupid fouls. Grrrrrr

Barkley, no.
Matty, yes - who was he supposed to be marking across the backline?
If he was stood right in front of the goalscorer he would have had an easy headed clearance, and still allowed him time to cover a late runner into the channels (if necessary).

I know some are desperate to have a go at Cash, if anything it's Duran who loses his man for the header.

Yeah i think duran was more to blame than cash tbh

[Demitri_C]

Yesterday was a prime example of where  rotation needs to come into play.  Rogers wasnt veey good and probably fatigue played a role in that. This is a example where we need to rotate

Im almost certain he will be rested vs palace