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Author Topic: Gary Shaw - RIP  (Read 61022 times)

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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #510 on: September 22, 2024, 04:12:33 PM »
There was no way a minute's silence would have worked yesterday.

Surely you just respect what the family want given they were all there.

Nobody knew what the family wanted, first I've heard of it is on here. The people shouting at the stewards outside definitely wouldn't have known. Really odd thing to moan at the club about.

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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #511 on: September 22, 2024, 04:13:36 PM »
There was no way a minute's silence would have worked yesterday.
It doesn’t work at all anymore.

That’s down to people. They don’t understand the need to be respectful in the way the occasion demands.
Clapping is not always the appropriate reaction.

That said, how difficult would it have been for the club to put it on the screens from 14:55 and leave it there.

At the families request there will be minute of silence.

People outside the ground won't see any screens. Minute's applause was the right thing to do.

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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #512 on: September 22, 2024, 04:14:36 PM »
Surely it's the fault of the club that there were still people stuck outside?

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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #513 on: September 22, 2024, 04:16:45 PM »
It was just handled really badly.

If it had been done more solemnly there would have been quiet as there is in remembrance weekend.

If the ref had blown his whistle as announced I think the crowd would have quietened.


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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #514 on: September 22, 2024, 04:17:57 PM »
There was no way a minute's silence would have worked yesterday.
It doesn’t work at all anymore.

That’s down to people. They don’t understand the need to be respectful in the way the occasion demands.
Clapping is not always the appropriate reaction.

That said, how difficult would it have been for the club to put it on the screens from 14:55 and leave it there.

At the families request there will be minute of silence.

People outside the ground won't see any screens. Minute's applause was the right thing to do.
Wow.

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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #515 on: September 22, 2024, 04:18:09 PM »
There was no way a minute's silence would have worked yesterday.
It doesn’t work at all anymore.

That’s down to people. They don’t understand the need to be respectful in the way the occasion demands.
Clapping is not always the appropriate reaction.

That said, how difficult would it have been for the club to put it on the screens from 14:55 and leave it there.

At the families request there will be minute of silence.


It works during remembrance fortnight.

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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #516 on: September 22, 2024, 04:19:28 PM »
There was no way a minute's silence would have worked yesterday.

Surely you just respect what the family want given they were all there.

Nobody knew what the family wanted, first I've heard of it is on here. The people shouting at the stewards outside definitely wouldn't have known. Really odd thing to moan at the club about.

They announced it at 2 according to Jon and then not again that I heard. Why not just before the players came out. Anyway, sometimes a minutes silence is right given his relatively young age, the unexpected nature of his passing, and the first of the eleven to go.

There was tumultuous applause at 8 minutes so that type of appreciation wouldn’t have been missed.

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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #517 on: September 22, 2024, 04:21:08 PM »
There was no way a minute's silence would have worked yesterday.
It doesn’t work at all anymore.

That’s down to people. They don’t understand the need to be respectful in the way the occasion demands.
Clapping is not always the appropriate reaction.

That said, how difficult would it have been for the club to put it on the screens from 14:55 and leave it there.

At the families request there will be minute of silence.


It works during remembrance fortnight.
It was messed up during a previous occurrence too.
Apologies, but I don’t recall who passed, but a minutes silence was called for, but people clapped.




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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #518 on: September 22, 2024, 04:21:15 PM »
It was handled fine. A well-observed minute's silence wasn't an option, the two available options were:

1.  A minute's applause.
2. An attempted minute's silence punctuated by hundreds of people shouting "you don't know what you're doing" at stewards and then, probably, loads of booing.

I reckon option 1 was more respectful.

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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #519 on: September 22, 2024, 04:21:25 PM »
The club could easily have had info that it was to be silence on all screens in the concourses and the big screens, and a pa announcement say every 10 mins. Rather than blaring shit music and pushing club shop tat and other sponsors.

The club could also try getting everyone in on time so there is no noise outside.

The only reason it wasn't the silence the family wanted is because of the club, no one else.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2024, 04:23:58 PM by PeterWithesShin »

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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #520 on: September 22, 2024, 04:22:55 PM »
There was no way a minute's silence would have worked yesterday.

Surely you just respect what the family want given they were all there.

Nobody knew what the family wanted, first I've heard of it is on here. The people shouting at the stewards outside definitely wouldn't have known. Really odd thing to moan at the club about.
The club knew what the family wanted and should have honoured that.
The fact that the club and tye announcer failed to communicate this is where the problem lies.
It was handled badly and amateurish.

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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #521 on: September 22, 2024, 04:23:06 PM »
There was no way a minute's silence would have worked yesterday.

Surely you just respect what the family want given they were all there.

Nobody knew what the family wanted, first I've heard of it is on here. The people shouting at the stewards outside definitely wouldn't have known. Really odd thing to moan at the club about.

They announced it at 2 according to Jon and then not again that I heard. Why not just before the players came out. Anyway, sometimes a minutes silence is right given his relatively young age, the unexpected nature of his passing, and the first of the eleven to go.

There was tumultuous applause at 8 minutes so that type of appreciation wouldn’t have been missed.
I completely agree.
A silence was by far the most appropriate marking of his passing.

Followed by a massive round of applause and singing of his song.

Plus, we have more fecking screens than you can shake a stick at now.
It’s not difficult to put a message on them.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2024, 04:25:51 PM by andyh »

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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #522 on: September 22, 2024, 04:24:07 PM »
A silence wasn't possible, as explained, not sure why you keep ignoring it but I can't be arsed to say it any more.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #523 on: September 22, 2024, 04:26:07 PM »
A silence wasn't possible, as explained, not sure why you keep ignoring it but I can't be arsed to say it any more.

And whose fault was it that it 'wasn't possible'?

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Re: Gary Shaw - RIP
« Reply #524 on: September 22, 2024, 04:27:16 PM »
A silence wasn't possible, as explained, not sure why you keep ignoring it but I can't be arsed to say it any more.
As pointed out, it’s observed during remembrance.

Why can’t you recognise the fact it’s also what the family wanted ?

 


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