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Offline Astnor

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #210 on: August 17, 2024, 06:23:40 PM »
We where superb until Cash got under pressure.

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #211 on: August 17, 2024, 06:24:12 PM »
Had Cash’s toe poke gone for a corner it would have been a non decision. A farce.
It didn't though. His toe stroked it and didn't dispose the player, followed by Cash taking him out. Anyone remember Milner being fouled against Blues? Similar incident.

Not really. The ball didn’t even change direction with that and it took about 5 replays to even spot he’d touched it and even then you couldn’t be 100% sure. Cash clearly gets the ball and then there’s a bit of a coming together. It’s never a penalty in a million years. Refs in completely the wrong position, guesses and the new directive for VAR is just going to lead to them sitting on the fence all the time. (The only good thing about that will be that peoples anger will be focussed on the piss poor refereeing decision rather than a piece of technology that is used badly)

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #212 on: August 17, 2024, 06:24:27 PM »
Neither of our fullbacks are good enough

Digne has been fine

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #213 on: August 17, 2024, 06:26:01 PM »
Matty Cash has conceded more penalties than anybody else since his Premier League debut in September 2020 - six.

It's an OH for a defender, especially one who doesn't flinch in the tackle. Sorry, every time I look at it it's more a bollocks of a decision. Not a clear play my arse...

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #214 on: August 17, 2024, 06:26:24 PM »
We should be leading with three.

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #215 on: August 17, 2024, 06:26:39 PM »
Had Cash’s toe poke gone for a corner it would have been a non decision. A farce.
It didn't though. His toe stroked it and didn't dispose the player, followed by Cash taking him out. Anyone remember Milner being fouled against Blues? Similar incident.

If you get a foot on the ball you can take the man out, ie. every half decent sliding tackle ever. Just because it's clumsy doesn't make it a foul. If you win the ball first it's not a foul.

It's blatantly not a penalty. I'm surprised by the reaction in here tbh.

He’s got a point, and you’re repeating exactly the same mistake as the noses made after that game.

You're going to need to elaborate on that.

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #216 on: August 17, 2024, 06:26:41 PM »
Had Cash’s toe poke gone for a corner it would have been a non decision. A farce.
It didn't though. His toe stroked it and didn't dispose the player, followed by Cash taking him out. Anyone remember Milner being fouled against Blues? Similar incident.

If you get a foot on the ball you can take the man out, ie. every half decent sliding tackle ever. Just because it's clumsy doesn't make it a foul. If you win the ball first it's not a foul.

It's blatantly not a penalty. I'm surprised by the reaction in here tbh.

That has never been the case ever. The decision is normally based on whether the ball is knocked away from the attackers control on whether a sliding challenge touching the ball first, then taking out the player is a pen or not.

I do think todays is less of a pen then some, but I also see that Soucek was winning the ball back before Cash and then there is the clash of legs which he goes down for. I think the Ref called it as he didn't see the touch first, and VAR sided with him still on review.

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #217 on: August 17, 2024, 06:27:01 PM »
Cash did touch the ball, but without cash scissoring his legs, Soucek regains control of the ball for me. Right decision.

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #218 on: August 17, 2024, 06:27:50 PM »
This new VAR initiative is going to make this even more farcical.  It’s adding subjectivity to an already subjective farce. Either you use the fucking video or you don’t.  ******. 

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #219 on: August 17, 2024, 06:27:58 PM »
Had Cash’s toe poke gone for a corner it would have been a non decision. A farce.
It didn't though. His toe stroked it and didn't dispose the player, followed by Cash taking him out. Anyone remember Milner being fouled against Blues? Similar incident.

Not really. The ball didn’t even change direction with that and it took about 5 replays to even spot he’d touched it and even then you couldn’t be 100% sure. Cash clearly gets the ball and then there’s a bit of a coming together. It’s never a penalty in a million years. Refs in completely the wrong position, guesses and the new directive for VAR is just going to lead to them sitting on the fence all the time. (The only good thing about that will be that peoples anger will be focussed on the piss poor refereeing decision rather than a piece of technology that is used badly)

Agree with all that. The question is, would that have been given against Citeh, Yanitid, Liverpool. The answer is a big, fat no.

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #220 on: August 17, 2024, 06:28:02 PM »
It's all setting up perfectly for the Duran winner.

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #221 on: August 17, 2024, 06:28:17 PM »
Soucek bought that pen by leaving his leg in, I think it's as simple as that and exactly the type of thing that VAR should be overturning because the referee couldn't have had a clear view of the incident. Also, why didn't VAR at least tell him to have a look  at it on the monitor?
« Last Edit: August 17, 2024, 06:30:16 PM by devilla »

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #222 on: August 17, 2024, 06:28:25 PM »
Cash toe pokes the ball, and then there is a coming together, so in actual fact, the foul occurs after Cash has won the ball?  Er, yeah, ok, thanks VAR.  Clear as mud as per. 

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #223 on: August 17, 2024, 06:28:33 PM »
Gotta get Rogers more on the ball, when he does go forward, he is terrifying their defence.

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Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Match
« Reply #224 on: August 17, 2024, 06:29:05 PM »
This new VAR initiative is going to make this even more farcical.  It’s adding subjectivity to an already subjective farce. Either you use the fucking video or you don’t.  ******. 

Absolutely bang on.

 


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