Amadou Onana

[brontebilly]

I'm still not sure what his actual key attributes are. Is it just his physique, aerial ability and long gadget-legs? Or can he actually play?

He can but he needs strict instructions. As a defensive midfielder (why do we always play two?) he's at his best. He just needs to focus on that job and let the more talented, attacking type players do theirs. He's no box to box player so once you get over that idea he's more than capable. Let him go up for corners and freekicks.

Top Tip: When we're trying to play out from the back, don't stand next to an opposition player making yourself unavailable. Those big legs you have, they're not just for tackling, they allow you to move and not just stand still like a fooking statue.

Johnny Giles used call that moral courage. Making yourself available for the pass when the pressure comes on and getting turned on it. Every player does it when 2-0 up or even 2-0 down. Onana is one of those. Pressure on and he hides. He's a complete fraud.

[eamonn]

Thing is, Kamara is a defensive footballer but is so comfortable with the ball, can shrug, feint, go past an opposing player quite effortlessly. Youri can ping a pass from anywhere. I wonder did we buy Onana because Unai thought Luiz and Tielemans got physically bullied a little bit. But he needs to provide more. The three players above-mentioned were/are all comfortable receiving the ball with their back to goal or on the half-turn and taking responsibility to get us going. I worry Amadou doesn't have that in his locker.

[Crown Hill]

We’d be much better off with Douglas Luiz!

[PaulWinch again]

Well we haven’t got him, so we should probably get over it.

[Crown Hill]

Well we haven’t got him, so we should probably get over it.

Yep two errors in that!

[Monty]

I'm still not sure what his actual key attributes are. Is it just his physique, aerial ability and long gadget-legs? Or can he actually play?

He can but he needs strict instructions. As a defensive midfielder (why do we always play two?) he's at his best. He just needs to focus on that job and let the more talented, attacking type players do theirs. He's no box to box player so once you get over that idea he's more than capable. Let him go up for corners and freekicks.

Top Tip: When we're trying to play out from the back, don't stand next to an opposition player making yourself unavailable. Those big legs you have, they're not just for tackling, they allow you to move and not just stand still like a fooking statue.

Johnny Giles used call that moral courage. Making yourself available for the pass when the pressure comes on and getting turned on it. Every player does it when 2-0 up or even 2-0 down. Onana is one of those. Pressure on and he hides. He's a complete fraud.

God in heaven, does it ever get a bit tiring?

[KevinGage]

A key part of our play when we looked at our best in 2023 was receiving the ball in tight areas, drawing sides in and then working the ball out with quick, incisive passing.

Douglas Luiz could do that but Onana clearly can't.

If we weren't keen on brining Doug back for whatever reason we should at least have been looking for a player in that mould.

[Crown Hill]

Yep I thought he doesn’t fit in from the first pre season. Strange signing. Sort of modern day Carlton Palmer

[VillaTim]

Onana £50M
Luiz £20M

Doesn't seem right

[LeeB]

I don't think he lacks technique, the problem is he doesn't impose himself on the game anywhere near enough.

[villa for life]

Some guy called Tim has started both of Everton’s games this season.

Maybe we should have kept him and saved ourselves £50 million quid.

[PaulWinch again]

Tim is not good enough.

[villa for life]

That’s a different point. Is Onana good enough? If not, maybe we should have saved £50 million pounds in transfer fees and many many millions more in wages.

 I think those savings would be unbelievably useful at this point in time.

[PaulWinch again]

Well it’s not a different point when you’re making a comparison with him.

[villa for life]

Well it’s not a different point when you’re making a comparison with him.

No…it’s a different point. I’m saying maybe we could have saved 50million pounds and millions in wages by keeping Tim and not buying Onana.

You replied saying “Tim is not good enough.”



That question wasn’t whether Tim was good enough. Your reply would only have relevance if you were inferring that Onana is good enough, and thus it was indeed worth spending those millions on him.

Is that what you are saying?