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Author Topic: Samuel Iling Junior - now on loan at Middlesbrough  (Read 42059 times)

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #225 on: August 21, 2024, 04:19:17 PM »
Fabs confirmed he is being allowed to be loaned out. I think we could be shooting ourselves in the foot here. Its going to be a very demanding season. Rotation is goibg to be key
Yes was reading this news myself however we can expect clearing space to bring some one in ?
Sterling or Lo Celso perhaps ?

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #226 on: August 21, 2024, 04:54:46 PM »
Fabs confirmed he is being allowed to be loaned out. I think we could be shooting ourselves in the foot here. Its going to be a very demanding season. Rotation is goibg to be key
Yes was reading this news myself however we can expect clearing space to bring some one in ?
Sterling or Lo Celso perhaps ?

Gosh (this isnt a dig at you FV so please dont take it like that) but my godness if thats the type of player emery is looking ti bring in i am going to be a bit concerned. Ones shite and the other is always injured

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #227 on: August 21, 2024, 06:25:30 PM »
Was anything said about why they were left out at the weekend ? They may just not be ready for the prem, and it's important to get off to a good start. As it was we used 3 new faces on Saturday. If we'd left Buendia and Barkley at home would we be assuming they were no longer part of the plans for the season?

Can't put everyone on the bench, who would they have been on for?

That's my point. It seems we are willing to let Iling-Junior go on loan, but it was as likely that on Saturday there just wasn't room for two more new guys who haven't played in the Prem, when we have experienced, and currently fit, players ahead of them. A couple of weeks down the line, fixtures coming thick and fast, an inevitable injury to someone, and the bench looks different.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #228 on: August 21, 2024, 06:52:20 PM »
Serie A... 👍
Damn! I had a feeling I'd made a mistake!

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #229 on: August 21, 2024, 06:57:35 PM »
Was anything said about why they were left out at the weekend ? They may just not be ready for the prem, and it's important to get off to a good start. As it was we used 3 new faces on Saturday. If we'd left Buendia and Barkley at home would we be assuming they were no longer part of the plans for the season?

Can't put everyone on the bench, who would they have been on for?

That's my point. It seems we are willing to let Iling-Junior go on loan, but it was as likely that on Saturday there just wasn't room for two more new guys who haven't played in the Prem, when we have experienced, and currently fit, players ahead of them. A couple of weeks down the line, fixtures coming thick and fast, an inevitable injury to someone, and the bench looks different.

Welcome two keepers on bench again 😔

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #230 on: August 21, 2024, 08:28:38 PM »
I haven't read any of the articles about this, but do we know if he's asked to go on loan, possibly as a reaction to not being picked on Saturday? Or is it a case of Emery and Co making the decision that it's the best option for the player. Or was it always the plan?

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #231 on: August 21, 2024, 10:51:50 PM »
It’s a great strategy.  Digne is going to leave at some point but is good for another season.  Get the lad some first team action then bed him in as second choice then first choice eventually.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #232 on: August 21, 2024, 10:52:48 PM »
And as for numbers come on everyone we could be Chelsea!

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #233 on: August 21, 2024, 10:59:43 PM »
I haven't read any of the articles about this, but do we know if he's asked to go on loan, possibly as a reaction to not being picked on Saturday? Or is it a case of Emery and Co making the decision that it's the best option for the player. Or was it always the plan?

The general gist from what I read is that he wants regular football for his development. He must have had that impression when he signed, but maybe now sees too many ahead of him and/or Emery has had to dampen expectations having seen him pre-season.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #234 on: August 21, 2024, 11:07:07 PM »
I would be amazed if going on loan is a surprise for him, he'd doubtless have discussed that whilst negotiating to join, he'd have wanted to know what the club had planned for him.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #235 on: August 21, 2024, 11:23:37 PM »
There are many things I like about Emery and I particularly like his deciveness.
Most of us quibbled about sending out Archer on loan,especially after selling Ings but it gave Duran an opportunity.
Moreno excelled in his first season but has depsrted 12 months later.
He got Torres from his former club but steered clear of Jackson.His squad wiill never become excessive in numbers and that helps with finances,sadly a more and more important factor.
Loaning out Iling helps the player and us financially.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #236 on: August 22, 2024, 10:20:15 AM »
I do keep forgetting how young Iling-Junior actually is.  He's basically the same age as Jhon Duran (actually one month older), which makes him a year younger than players like Louie Barry and Kessler Hayden (who we still think of as 'promising youngsters').

It's not a surprise that he's not particularly close to being a first-team regular, and if Unai's team think his development would be better served playing regular minutes elsewhere, then I don't doubt for a moment we can find a top-flight club somewhere willing to give him those minutes.

However, I am surprised that we're not keeping him around for the numbers, though.  Given the tired way we petered out last season, I would have thought keeping players around with top-flight first-time experience, who can play a dozen games or so that allow us to rest key players when necessary, would be a good thing to do?

But I've learned enough not to question Unai when he does something that "seems" like maybe it's the wrong thing to do.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #237 on: August 22, 2024, 10:34:49 AM »
Apparently we can't loan him on to another prem team.

That's annoying as he'd be a good pick up for Leicester or Southampton and could get 30 starts at the level we want to see him at.

We've just signed him 12 months too early. Next summer Digne will leave and perhaps Ramsey will be next summer's Luiz so I think they'll be more space in the squad for him if the loan goes well.

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #238 on: August 22, 2024, 10:48:22 AM »
Do we loan him back to Serie A then, or another country with a decent top-flight?

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Re: Samuel Iling Junior - Signed
« Reply #239 on: August 22, 2024, 11:52:41 AM »
It’s a great strategy.  Digne is going to leave at some point but is good for another season.  Get the lad some first team action then bed him in as second choice then first choice eventually.
Yeah, agree here.  It's worth remembering it also gives Maatsen a bit of time to settle, since there's already an established left back as cover/rotation.  Then potentially next summer, Digne leaves and Iling-Junior is there as a ready-made replacement with Maatsen the more established player in that position.

I could see something similar happen at right back in the next season or two, if Geertruida's brought in - him & Cash as the main right-back pair, with Nedeljkovic going out on loan at a decent (Premier League, Serie A, La Liga) club

 


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