Samuel Iling Junior - now on loan at Middlesbrough

[Richard]

Odd, this.

Esp we're letting Moreno go as well.

Two rookies and a bag of pork scratchings for Douglas Luiz never looked a great deal. But the hope was that the likes of Illing, the Baron and Dobbin would come in and give us more from the bench when we get to the busy phases of the season. Now we're punting two of those out on loan.

We all know how stretched we were in April/May last season. Not sure why we'd chance repeating that.

Totally agree. Fair enough we look loaded right now especially with Mings and Kamara returning before Xmas but once the CL, injuries and suspensions kick in we will need to ensure the bench remains as strong as it was on Saturday, because that is what will make a lot of difference in tight games.

[kippaxvilla2]

Maybe he should go to Chelsea on loan they’re short of bodies.

[eamonn]

I think LB is the one position where we have more players than Chelsea, currently.

[pablo_picasso]

He covers LB/LWB & LM/LW, so his versatility down that side will be useful if we pick up any injuries.

[Demitri_C]

Just makes no sense to me aigning two players who we may loan out. We need players now to help the team duringvthis tough campaign

[Footy-Vill]

Just makes no sense to me aigning two players who we may loan out. We need players now to help the team duringvthis tough campaign

They were exchange players and perhaps aren’t considered first team worthy and champions league ready.
Certainly Barrenechea wasn’t first choice at all fir exchange and McKennie wasn’t prepared to reduce his wages or compete for a starting place.
Both Sammy Jr and El Barren are players who could have sell on value and I think can’t be too surprised especially if we can get champions league ready players in place in the squad

Of the two I much rather have Sammy jr stay if necessary but can only assume signings coming in if he leaves

[Mister E]

Of the two I much rather have Sammy jr stay if necessary but can only assume signings coming in if he leaves

You keep saying this but Barrenechea appears to have impressed more so than I-J, and he also got more La Liga experience last season.

[pablo_picasso]

Serie A... 👍

[Footy-Vill]

Of the two I much rather have Sammy jr stay if necessary but can only assume signings coming in if he leaves

You keep saying this but Barrenechea appears to have impressed more so than I-J, and he also got more La Liga experience last season.

I really don't see how El Barren can be a starter in our midfield and he’s far down the pecking order. Just feels like a player that may be sold on in the future. I mean, he can learn develop and has some support of Spanish-speaking players, but he is far from the best option for midfield. Not for our level. Cup games may be possible, but starting games in the league or Champions League are a long way off, so it's not surprising if he's not in the squad again on Saturday.

However, letting go of both Sammy jr and Barren exchange without acceptable upgrades as replacement for squad depth would not be sensible, but we haven't heard anything from El Barren at all, and he's someone who may take some time to adjust.

Good luck to both of them because they are Villa players, but I do not see them as players who will contribute much in the short term.
It's like latest transfer with this Kane Taylor signing doesn't interest me heaps at all because he'll most likely be moved on than make it here and I assume one, if not both, of Juventus' exchange players are cattle livestock.

I also prefer Sammy Jr. because of his English academy experience and excitement level. El Barren appears to be a typical South American defensive midfielder. It remains to be seen, but they must be viewed as bit players who were traded and are battling to be squad members, let alone first-team starters. Of course keep them in and around the squad if can’t bring in ready to go players.

[AV84]

Was anything said about why they were left out at the weekend ? They may just not be ready for the prem, and it's important to get off to a good start. As it was we used 3 new faces on Saturday. If we'd left Buendia and Barkley at home would we be assuming they were no longer part of the plans for the season?

[Olneythelonely]

Was anything said about why they were left out at the weekend ? They may just not be ready for the prem, and it's important to get off to a good start. As it was we used 3 new faces on Saturday. If we'd left Buendia and Barkley at home would we be assuming they were no longer part of the plans for the season?

I’m struggling to think who on the bench I’d have replace to include those two

[edgysatsuma89]

Was anything said about why they were left out at the weekend ? They may just not be ready for the prem, and it's important to get off to a good start. As it was we used 3 new faces on Saturday. If we'd left Buendia and Barkley at home would we be assuming they were no longer part of the plans for the season?

I’m struggling to think who on the bench I’d have replace to include those two

Gauci. We don't need any other keepers at the club.

[coreyfeldman]

Was anything said about why they were left out at the weekend ? They may just not be ready for the prem, and it's important to get off to a good start. As it was we used 3 new faces on Saturday. If we'd left Buendia and Barkley at home would we be assuming they were no longer part of the plans for the season?

Can't put everyone on the bench, who would they have been on for?

[Demitri_C]

Fabs confirmed he is being allowed to be loaned out. I think we could be shooting ourselves in the foot here. Its going to be a very demanding season. Rotation is goibg to be key

[Footy-Vill]

Was anything said about why they were left out at the weekend ? They may just not be ready for the prem, and it's important to get off to a good start. As it was we used 3 new faces on Saturday. If we'd left Buendia and Barkley at home would we be assuming they were no longer part of the plans for the season?

I’m struggling to think who on the bench I’d have replace to include those two

Romano
“Aston Villa have decided to let Samuel Illing Jr leave on loan to allow him to play on a regular basis. Spanish, French, and Italian clubs are keen on signing the winger who joined as part of Douglas Luiz deal from Juventus”