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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2805 on: October 04, 2024, 11:27:36 AM »
There's a decent chance more big sides will miss out on the last 16 with this format. And they have no Europa safety net.

I expect the extra Euro money in the new format league makes up for not playing extra matches in the lower league when they probably don't want them. Especially if they are well placed in their own league for qualification and maybe winning it.

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2806 on: October 04, 2024, 11:27:59 AM »
It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.

Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.

I disagree

In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.

They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits  teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle

Newcastle and us ARE bigger, richer teams. Of course Newcastle probably would have qualified under the the new system because they would have been given an opportunity to pummel someone like Young Boys, Brugge and Celtic just like we have been.

It doesn't matter that Arsenal have to play PSG and Liverpool have to play Real Madrid. All four are still going through irrespective of what happens in those games.

It's designed to make sure that there is no risk of anyone who makes money from going out too early.

That and squeezing a couple more games in.

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2807 on: October 04, 2024, 11:29:58 AM »
It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.

Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.

I disagree

In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.

They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits  teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle

Newcastle and us ARE bigger, richer teams. Of course Newcastle probably would have qualified under the the new system because they would have been given an opportunity to pummel someone like Young Boys, Brugge and Celtic just like we have been.

It doesn't matter that Arsenal have to play PSG and Liverpool have to play Real Madrid. All four are still going through irrespective of what happens in those games.

It's designed to make sure that there is no risk of anyone who makes money from going out too early.

Bayern for example will probably still qualify but lets just say two or three clubs like us get in that top 8 and then bayern finish in the play off spots no gurantees they can qualify in that two legged game depends who they get. Its certainly harder than the previous tournament.

Looking at their next three barcelona away benfica home ans PSG home. Those are three very tough games. They would have only likley played benfica out of those three in old format

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2808 on: October 04, 2024, 11:37:42 AM »
It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.

Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.

I disagree

In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.

They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits  teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle

Newcastle and us ARE bigger, richer teams. Of course Newcastle probably would have qualified under the the new system because they would have been given an opportunity to pummel someone like Young Boys, Brugge and Celtic just like we have been.

It doesn't matter that Arsenal have to play PSG and Liverpool have to play Real Madrid. All four are still going through irrespective of what happens in those games.

It's designed to make sure that there is no risk of anyone who makes money from going out too early.

Bayern for example will probably still qualify but lets just say two or three clubs like us get in that top 8 and then bayern finish in the play off spots no gurantees they can qualify in that two legged game depends who they get. Its certainly harder than the previous tournament.

Looking at their next three barcelona away benfica home ans PSG home. Those are three very tough games. They would have only likley played benfica out of those three in old format
Meanwhile Real Madrid have Dortmund Milan and Liverpool. This format definitely increases the chances that some of the favoured ones will be in the play-offs and eliminated much earlier than would be in their cash flows.

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2809 on: October 04, 2024, 11:51:32 AM »
This is a much more interesting format.

We've made €4.2m in prize money from our first two games. I wonder how much a win in the Conference League generated.

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2810 on: October 04, 2024, 12:26:19 PM »
It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.

Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.

I disagree

In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.

They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits  teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle

Newcastle and us ARE bigger, richer teams. Of course Newcastle probably would have qualified under the the new system because they would have been given an opportunity to pummel someone like Young Boys, Brugge and Celtic just like we have been.

It doesn't matter that Arsenal have to play PSG and Liverpool have to play Real Madrid. All four are still going through irrespective of what happens in those games.

It's designed to make sure that there is no risk of anyone who makes money from going out too early.

Bayern for example will probably still qualify but lets just say two or three clubs like us get in that top 8 and then bayern finish in the play off spots no gurantees they can qualify in that two legged game depends who they get. Its certainly harder than the previous tournament.

Looking at their next three barcelona away benfica home ans PSG home. Those are three very tough games. They would have only likley played benfica out of those three in old format
Meanwhile Real Madrid have Dortmund Milan and Liverpool. This format definitely increases the chances that some of the favoured ones will be in the play-offs and eliminated much earlier than would be in their cash flows.

Exactly my point no advantage no matter what team you are. You could argue we have easier games on paper than them. We are also making more money as ads is alluding to as well. I suspect fans like us like it and fans like munich hate it

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2811 on: October 04, 2024, 12:54:49 PM »
This is a much more interesting format.

We've made €4.2m in prize money from our first two games. I wonder how much a win in the Conference League generated.
I thought it was 500k last season.

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2812 on: October 04, 2024, 01:06:31 PM »
It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.

Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.

I disagree

In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.

They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits  teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle

Newcastle and us ARE bigger, richer teams. Of course Newcastle probably would have qualified under the the new system because they would have been given an opportunity to pummel someone like Young Boys, Brugge and Celtic just like we have been.

It doesn't matter that Arsenal have to play PSG and Liverpool have to play Real Madrid. All four are still going through irrespective of what happens in those games.

It's designed to make sure that there is no risk of anyone who makes money from going out too early.

Bayern for example will probably still qualify but lets just say two or three clubs like us get in that top 8 and then bayern finish in the play off spots no gurantees they can qualify in that two legged game depends who they get. Its certainly harder than the previous tournament.

Looking at their next three barcelona away benfica home ans PSG home. Those are three very tough games. They would have only likley played benfica out of those three in old format
Meanwhile Real Madrid have Dortmund Milan and Liverpool. This format definitely increases the chances that some of the favoured ones will be in the play-offs and eliminated much earlier than would be in their cash flows.

Exactly my point no advantage no matter what team you are. You could argue we have easier games on paper than them. We are also making more money as ads is alluding to as well. I suspect fans like us like it and fans like munich hate it
I bet RM, AM  and BM stats teams had predicted them to win their games.  Now they're playing catch up as they wont want to go through the playoffs, and we have a comparatively easy run.  It will be interesting which other outsiders can grab and hold on to the top 8 places.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2024, 01:09:06 PM by itbrvilla »

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2813 on: October 04, 2024, 01:20:51 PM »
It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.

Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.

I disagree

In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.

They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits  teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle

Newcastle and us ARE bigger, richer teams. Of course Newcastle probably would have qualified under the the new system because they would have been given an opportunity to pummel someone like Young Boys, Brugge and Celtic just like we have been.

It doesn't matter that Arsenal have to play PSG and Liverpool have to play Real Madrid. All four are still going through irrespective of what happens in those games.

It's designed to make sure that there is no risk of anyone who makes money from going out too early.

Bayern for example will probably still qualify but lets just say two or three clubs like us get in that top 8 and then bayern finish in the play off spots no gurantees they can qualify in that two legged game depends who they get. Its certainly harder than the previous tournament.

Looking at their next three barcelona away benfica home ans PSG home. Those are three very tough games. They would have only likley played benfica out of those three in old format
Meanwhile Real Madrid have Dortmund Milan and Liverpool. This format definitely increases the chances that some of the favoured ones will be in the play-offs and eliminated much earlier than would be in their cash flows.

Exactly my point no advantage no matter what team you are. You could argue we have easier games on paper than them. We are also making more money as ads is alluding to as well. I suspect fans like us like it and fans like munich hate it
I bet RM, AM  and BM stats teams had predicted them to win their games.  Now they're playing catch up as they wont want to go through the playoffs, and we have a comparatively easy run.  It will be interesting which other outsiders can grab and hold on to the top 8 places.

Well i still think we have some toughies like Leizpig juventus and i think brugges away might be tougher than we expect

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2814 on: October 04, 2024, 01:34:55 PM »
Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website.  God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2815 on: October 04, 2024, 01:49:42 PM »
It will be fine.

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2816 on: October 04, 2024, 02:35:40 PM »
Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website.  God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/birmingham-city-trip-take-place-original-date

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2817 on: October 04, 2024, 05:18:13 PM »
Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website.  God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
Police might have the final say

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2818 on: October 04, 2024, 05:39:27 PM »
Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website.  God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
Why would it be horrendous for the police? There is very little chance of our fans meeting blose in centre.

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Re: Champions League
« Reply #2819 on: October 04, 2024, 05:41:16 PM »
Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website.  God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
Why would it be horrendous for the police? There is very little chance of our fans meeting blose in centre.
We might bump into Lichfield Blue...

 


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