Quote from: The Edge on April 14, 2024, 12:24:42 PMI'm assuming that the "semi" automated bit is to leave a bit of wriggle room to favour Man Utd? Isn't it always. In reply to FVThe tech requires x amount of extra cameras placed around each ground so I'm guessing the surveys, ordering, fitting and testing is why it is several matches into the season before they become officially operational. (First so many matches might be used for the calibrations to confirm it is working). But if they are not using the accelerometers, then that is either down to Nike not having the opportunity to fit them, or it isn't as reliable tech yet. So I suspect we still will rely on the ref trying to pinpoint when the ball is touched last and then the computer will do all the lines instantly from that.
I'm assuming that the "semi" automated bit is to leave a bit of wriggle room to favour Man Utd?
Surely the ball is a key part of it? What makes you think they're not using them?
The purpose and the role of offside in the rules of football was never such as to require decisions to be based on the width of a toenail. I'd scrap VAR tomorrow, if it were possible.
It's not about us but the game as a whole and watching is now a much poorer experience. It's just another level of human error, rank incompetence and bias.Apology after apology to clubs, inconsitancies are as, if not more, common now as they were prior to It's introduction. Cursary checks for some infringements, forensic analysis for others, we see the offside lines when it suits them, never hear the conversations and as we saw at Old Trafford, if they want to rule out a goal they'll fucking find a way to do it.If automated offside is a factual system, like goaline tech then great, otherwise it's subjective, just as refs decision is. Perhaps we could have a VAR to check the VAR?
Howard Webb PGMOL Chief Refereeing Officer, on the impact of SAOT"It will make us quicker in a lot of situations involving tight offsides. Our defenders are really skilful at stepping up at the right time to play people offside, but also attackers are skilled at timing their runs as well. So we do have a lot of really tight offside situations in the Premier League."The assistants are also very good at making judgments in real-time, but, of course, they still need to be checked by the VAR and often players are leaning and there's maybe distance between the defenders and the attackers."So, at the moment we're using software, dropping lines from players' body positions, which takes time to do in a diligent way. Semi-automated offsides will speed that process up. There are still going to be some situations when there's a lot of players in close proximity, where we'll have to go through the existing system, if you like."But in many, many cases it [SAOT] will speed up the offside process because we won't have to place those lines. It'll be done for us by the software. So we are looking forward to making use of that to speed the game up.""Semi-automated suggests to us where the offside line is, but we still have to check the kick point - make sure the computer selected the right one, make sure it's selected the right players, because we have to recognise who is the ... the defender that we're interested in, make sure it's identified the right players. And it's just like a validation really, of what the computer is suggesting to us."There's no indication [from SAOT] to the on-field officials as yet as to whether or not a player's offside. That might be something that comes down the track, where they get some information in real-time, which will prevent the delaying of flags. But that's some way off."But we're keeping a really close eye on anything that makes us more accurate, more efficient, and that benefits the game in a way that we think the VAR has overall in the last four to five years."
Quote from: dalians umbrella on August 18, 2024, 01:05:29 PMQuote from: Somniloquism on August 18, 2024, 10:57:13 AMI will point out the obvious that offsides are absolute with the only "subjective" bit on if an offside player who didn't touch the ball but was interfering with if near the keeper.I know what you are saying, but before VAR, there was a widely-accepted degree of subjectivity regarding offside where you would regularly hear the phrase "he's about level" from pundits and fans. There were no big toes offside.Offsides can never "absolute" until they can say for certain when the ball leaves the passing players boot. The semi-automated system was supposed to address that problem but of course it's not ready yet thanks to the plonkers in charge. No doubt it will be implemented just in time to be used in favour of the red shite.
Quote from: Somniloquism on August 18, 2024, 10:57:13 AMI will point out the obvious that offsides are absolute with the only "subjective" bit on if an offside player who didn't touch the ball but was interfering with if near the keeper.I know what you are saying, but before VAR, there was a widely-accepted degree of subjectivity regarding offside where you would regularly hear the phrase "he's about level" from pundits and fans. There were no big toes offside.
I will point out the obvious that offsides are absolute with the only "subjective" bit on if an offside player who didn't touch the ball but was interfering with if near the keeper.
The much-anticipated Premier League semi-automated offside technology is facing a delay with its introduction now likely to be pushed back to 2025. The system promises faster and more accurate offside decisions. However, despite unanimous approval by clubs in April, it will not be ready for deployment this year as originally planned. The technology had been expected to roll out after one of the upcoming autumn international breaks. Nonetheless, ongoing trials have postponed its launch.
Quote from: Footy-Vill on October 13, 2024, 10:45:31 PMThe much-anticipated Premier League semi-automated offside technology is facing a delay with its introduction now likely to be pushed back to 2025. The system promises faster and more accurate offside decisions. However, despite unanimous approval by clubs in April, it will not be ready for deployment this year as originally planned. The technology had been expected to roll out after one of the upcoming autumn international breaks. Nonetheless, ongoing trials have postponed its launch.When you lift quotes from other places you are obliged to credit where you've got it from for copyright reasons.
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