Summer 2024 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc.

[Percy McCarthy]

As young Mr Grace (one for the kids there) would say, ‘you’ve all done very well’. The commercial department (in terms of attracting sponsors at least), Emery (in terms of playing success and filling the ground), the players obvs, the academy in providing players and saleable assets, and the various  people who have been responsible for recruitment. Selling players or not, it’s up to Monchi and Emery now to keep up the good work in their respective roles if we are to continue to stay the right side of PSR.

[edgysatsuma89]

I struggle with Tielemans, one game he is a 9/10 the next he goes missing and becomes a 6/10.

Not sure what his best position is, a little like Zaniolo. I suspect he is a 10, which when Buendia is fully fit , will be Buendias position as he is the better player IMO.

If we had an offer around the £30m mark i would sell him in a heartbeat. Pure profit too

I agree, I think he only really works as a 10. I think he has looked decent with both Kamara and Dougie behind him.

[LeonW]

I’m not sure there will be a massive amount of movement this summer generally because of what we’re seeing with FFP. And certainly with our assets, there would have to be buyers who would pay what we wanted. We’re not under pressure to sell. If we wanted to expand our squad and upgrade then we would likely need to consider it. The midfield market has been set by Chelsea paying £100m for Fernandez, Caicedo, etc. so Dougie is likely to go for a not dissimilar amount. And who is going to pay that? Same with Martinez. I think we’ll try move one or two out like Chambers, Dendoncker, Olsen, Coutinho. Might not be permanent.

The big thing with selling your best players is replacing them. More often than not, clubs get that wrong. Or in some cases, even getting the money isn’t necessarily enough to replace them. We could get a shed load for Martinez but we wouldn’t be able to replace him with the money because I don’t think a player of that equivalent qualty would come at the minute e.g., an Oblak, etc.. So we’d be back to gambling or developing someone. You put up with their mistakes until they improve and then likely not really compete. So I’d rather we kept our best players. If we can do that, we’ll start to get somewhere.

[ChicagoLion]

Leon,  no one would pay what Chelsea paid for those players.
In the Private Equity world they call it the Drunken Sailor when a fund pays massively over the odds for a company.
It’s obvious that a ceiling has been reached for now and the transfer market has peaked.
So don’t expect £100 million for Luiz.

[LeonW]

Leon,  no one would pay what Chelsea paid for those players.
In the Private Equity world they call it the Drunken Sailor when a fund pays massively over the odds for a company.
It’s obvious that a ceiling has been reached for now and the transfer market has peaked.
So don’t expect £100 million for Luiz.

If the market stalls then possibly not but I’m sure Villa would be making the argument that Luiz is worth at least what Chelsea paid for the pair I mentioned, or what Arsenal paid for Rice. Why would we not? We’re not under pressure to sell. It was only a few years ago that Pogba went for over £90m to Man Utd.

[ChicagoLion]

Leon,  no one would pay what Chelsea paid for those players.
In the Private Equity world they call it the Drunken Sailor when a fund pays massively over the odds for a company.
It’s obvious that a ceiling has been reached for now and the transfer market has peaked.
So don’t expect £100 million for Luiz.

If the market stalls then possibly not but I’m sure Villa would be making the argument that Luiz is worth at least what Chelsea paid for the pair I mentioned, what Arsenal paid for Rice. Why would we not? We’re not under pressure to sell. It was only a few years ago that Pogba went for over £90m to Man Utd.

Villa can make what ever argument they like.

[jwarry]

Tenuous rumours of Dybala in Italian press apparently

[Baldy]

I like Amrabat currently on loan at Man utd. One of the best players in the last World Cup.

Didn't fit in at Man Utd (who would!!) but would be an asset to a proper team.

Loan not being made permanent and Fiorentina want 17m.

[Dave P]

Digne for sure will be gone. We will trying to offload Coutinho permanently. Chambers will be gone I’m sure. Cam will return to be sold again. My biggest concern would be JJ being sold. And yeh, didn’t think of Konsa who would be a prized asset especially if he goes to the Euros, gets to play and does well.

I think Dave P meant Kosta - (Nedeljkovic) our new young Serbian RB, replacing Cash.

I did indeed.

[eamonn]

Perce, why aren't you in Finance?

His personality's too vibrant.

Yeah but you're vibrant too.

[chrisw1]

Leon,  no one would pay what Chelsea paid for those players.
In the Private Equity world they call it the Drunken Sailor when a fund pays massively over the odds for a company.
It’s obvious that a ceiling has been reached for now and the transfer market has peaked.
So don’t expect £100 million for Luiz.

If the market stalls then possibly not but I’m sure Villa would be making the argument that Luiz is worth at least what Chelsea paid for the pair I mentioned, what Arsenal paid for Rice. Why would we not? We’re not under pressure to sell. It was only a few years ago that Pogba went for over £90m to Man Utd.

Villa can make what ever argument they like.

I agree with Chicago, I think the market will fall significantly as FFP begins to bite a bit more.  Chelsea are in trouble, so unless Man City are interested I don't think there are really any other clubs in the £100m market at the moment.

Not many people rate Douggie more than I do, but if we did sell (I don't think we will) then I think in the current climate it would be closer to £60m.

[LeeB]

Leon,  no one would pay what Chelsea paid for those players.
In the Private Equity world they call it the Drunken Sailor when a fund pays massively over the odds for a company.
It’s obvious that a ceiling has been reached for now and the transfer market has peaked.
So don’t expect £100 million for Luiz.

If the market stalls then possibly not but I’m sure Villa would be making the argument that Luiz is worth at least what Chelsea paid for the pair I mentioned, what Arsenal paid for Rice. Why would we not? We’re not under pressure to sell. It was only a few years ago that Pogba went for over £90m to Man Utd.

Villa can make what ever argument they like.

I agree with Chicago, I think the market will fall significantly as FFP begins to bite a bit more.  Chelsea are in trouble, so unless Man City are interested I don't think there are really any other clubs in the £100m market at the moment.

Not many people rate Douggie more than I do, but if we did sell (I don't think we will) then I think in the current climate it would be closer to £60m.

I tend to agree, but someone forgot to tell the rumour mongers that were quoting £80m each for Branthwaite and Onana at Everton last week.

[chrisw1]

Yeah, I think Everton fans will get a reality check too.

[Dave]

Not many people rate Douggie more than I do, but if we did sell (I don't think we will) then I think in the current climate it would be closer to £60m.

It really depends on why we were selling. If it were because he kicked up a massive fuss and demanded his dream move to Arsenal or whatever, then I expect that's the sort of figure we'd probably end up getting. But precedent suggests that he's probably unlikely to do that, given he could have done it before when things were worse and chose not to.

If it were because we had to sell someone to make PSR rules work, then I imagine we'd try and sell in an area of the pitch where we have more potential replacements (Ramsey? Bailey? Konsa?). I don't think we'd sell him for under what we thought he was worth to a likely rival, only to then need to spend money on a replacement. If Iroegbunam had set the world alight in his appearances (or does in the rest of the season) then perhaps.

The scenario where I'd assume he goes for anything under £80m or so, would be that hypothetical release clause that nobody knows if it exists or not.

[coreyfeldman]

I like Amrabat currently on loan at Man utd. One of the best players in the last World Cup.

Didn't fit in at Man Utd (who would!!) but would be an asset to a proper team.

Loan not being made permanent and Fiorentina want 17m.

He's really not very good at all, and is a huge downgrade on any central midfielder we have