Standard of Refereeing

[ChicagoLion]

There seems to be a lot of evidence suggesting they have no problem in deliberately officiating against us.
I am surprised that our owners have not made representations to PGMOL and the FA.

[LeonW]

There seems to be a lot of evidence suggesting they have no problem in deliberately officiating against us.
I am surprised that our owners have not made representations to PGMOL and the FA.

I agree. The media outrage tends to focus minds rightly or wrongly. We need to start drawing attention to things consistently.

[Toronto Villa]

The inconsistency is everywhere. If we make specific issues against us we will start to sound and act like Nottingham Forest. Officiating might be at the lowest ebb in our memories but VAR has also created that. Instead of allowing the game officials to manage the game and use VAR as needed it takes away their confidence to make decisions. VAR is way too involved and threatens to become even more if they expand where it is used.

[ChicagoLion]

The inconsistency is everywhere. If we make specific issues against us we will start to sound and act like Nottingham Forest. Officiating might be at the lowest ebb in our memories but VAR has also created that. Instead of allowing the game officials to manage the game and use VAR as needed it takes away their confidence to make decisions. VAR is way too involved and threatens to become even more if they expand where it is used.

You think we are being treated fairly?
I think there is a an awful lot of evidence to suggest the opposite.
Arsenal mounted a huge campaign against the refs , funny how we haven’t heard a peep out of Arteta.

[dorsetvillian]

I don't go down the corruption line of thought, but every game at the moment seems to have the most blatant decision(s) go against Villa.

[ChicagoLion]

I don't go down the corruption line of thought, but every game at the moment seems to have the most blatant decision(s) go against Villa.

I do not think it’s a coincidence.

We know that there is corruption in the game, if this wasn’t the case we would not be 3 years down the road without Citeh being sanctioned.

The same people that are allowing/ facilitating this are the same people who are facilitating PGMOL to operate in a vacuum.

[Toronto Villa]

The inconsistency is everywhere. If we make specific issues against us we will start to sound and act like Nottingham Forest. Officiating might be at the lowest ebb in our memories but VAR has also created that. Instead of allowing the game officials to manage the game and use VAR as needed it takes away their confidence to make decisions. VAR is way too involved and threatens to become even more if they expand where it is used.

You think we are being treated fairly?
I think there is a an awful lot of evidence to suggest the opposite.
Arsenal mounted a huge campaign against the refs , funny how we haven’t heard a peep out of Arteta.

I haven’t said that. I think some of the decisions against us have been dreadful. But as fans of Aston Villa we are naturally going to look at decisions against us with greater scrutiny than decisions that have favoured us. And with greater scrutiny than decisions fans of other teams might feel aggrieved by. That’s not me saying that refs don’t get influenced at Old Trafford or Anfield or by what Pep, Ferguson, Wenger etc might have said publicly over the years. So do I think unconscious bias exists? Yes. But there are poor decisions across the game. Officiating has to be better and VAR has very much impacted the game in my opinion to the detriment of it and to those who are charged in making decisions on the pitch.

[ChicagoLion]

The inconsistency is everywhere. If we make specific issues against us we will start to sound and act like Nottingham Forest. Officiating might be at the lowest ebb in our memories but VAR has also created that. Instead of allowing the game officials to manage the game and use VAR as needed it takes away their confidence to make decisions. VAR is way too involved and threatens to become even more if they expand where it is used.

You think we are being treated fairly?
I think there is a an awful lot of evidence to suggest the opposite.
Arsenal mounted a huge campaign against the refs , funny how we haven’t heard a peep out of Arteta.

I haven’t said that. I think some of the decisions against us have been dreadful. But as fans of Aston Villa we are naturally going to look at decisions against us with greater scrutiny than decisions that have favoured us. And with greater scrutiny than decisions fans of other teams might feel aggrieved by. That’s not me saying that refs don’t get influenced at Old Trafford or Anfield or by what Pep, Ferguson, Wenger etc might have said publicly over the years. So do I think unconscious bias exists? Yes. But there are poor decisions across the game. Officiating has to be better and VAR has very much impacted the game in my opinion to the detriment of it and to those who are charged in making decisions on the pitch.

As I said there is too much evidence to indicate that we are being discriminated against.
If you choose not to believe that, that’s fine.

[Toronto Villa]

So you think PGMOL have all got together in some dark room to screw Aston Villa?

[ChicagoLion]

So you think PGMOL have all got together in some dark room to screw Aston Villa?

No, I think that certain teams are getting preferential treatment and potential rivals are fair game.
We are collateral damage.

[LeonW]

So you think PGMOL have all got together in some dark room to screw Aston Villa?

That’s not what Chicago is saying. I agree with his point on Arteta. He came out and made a big hullabaloo about a few decisions and it’s made a difference. It’s not conspiracy. It’s the fact that the refs are less inclined to make decisions against sides that will likely lead to a backlash from their manager and the media. They have VAR and yet look what happens or rather what doesn’t.

[LeonW]

So you think PGMOL have all got together in some dark room to screw Aston Villa?

No, I think that certain teams are getting preferential treatment and potential rivals are fair game.
We are collateral damage.

Those two sentences I think sum it up perfectly.

[ChicagoLion]

So you think PGMOL have all got together in some dark room to screw Aston Villa?

That’s not what Chicago is saying. I agree with his point on Arteta. He came out and made a big hullabaloo about a few decisions and it’s made a difference. It’s not conspiracy. It’s the fact that the refs are less inclined to make decisions against sides that will likely lead to a backlash from their manager and the media. They have VAR and yet look what happens or rather what doesn’t.

It wasn’t just Arteta, the club went full on at PGMOL and the FA.

[Toronto Villa]

So you think PGMOL have all got together in some dark room to screw Aston Villa?

No, I think that certain teams are getting preferential treatment and potential rivals are fair game.
We are collateral damage.

So in recent weeks that means Arsenal, Everton and Bournemouth with major decisions that have gone in their favour and against us. Let’s say we agree that top teams like Arsenal, loved by the football media and by the PL because they grow the global brand get favourable decisions. How are you explaining the decision Everton got at Villa Park and Bournemouth got yesterday?

[ChicagoLion]

I don't go down the corruption line of thought, but every game at the moment seems to have the most blatant decision(s) go against Villa.

I do not think it’s a coincidence.

We know that there is corruption in the game, if this wasn’t the case we would not be 3 years down the road without Citeh being sanctioned.

The same people that are allowing/ facilitating this are the same people who are facilitating PGMOL to operate in a vacuum.

Fir you TV, I won’t bother arguing with you on this, you have made your mind up.