Next FAB meeting

[Dogtanian]

Yep, but then they don’t like telling us what they’re doing when we actually know they’re doing it, so god knows!

[Chris Smith]

I'm so glad I got my season ticket before there was a queue.  I think I'd struggle for motivation as a casual supporter, particularly if I was looking at a spending decision of £65-70 for most games and knowing I'd never get a seat in the Holte.  The thought of trying to introduce kids to the club would seem pointless when the chances of getting seats together would be almost nil.

I agree. Fortunately we have had STs for years, but it's becoming almost impossible for any new people to get a season ticket.

The only viable way to introduce new family members is to share out the existing STs for those who have them, but the club are always trying to clamp down on that as well.

The move to compulsory digital season tickets will be a major hindrance to ST sharing, even within families.

It shouldn’t do, what’s to stop both loading it into their Apple Wallet or android equivalent? As long as they both try and attend the same game of course.

[Stinkin_Thinkin]

Is it me or do they always come across as ‘sniffy’?

Interesting choice of word "vomitories"

[eamonn]

It's a weird word, dunno why God invented it.

[chrisw1]

So by the sounds of it there's a new fan park building which I had assumed would be the warehouse, but it seems not.  I would have thought they'd need planning permission for this, so I'm not quite sure what they have in mind?

[Jon Crofts]

I'm so glad I got my season ticket before there was a queue.  I think I'd struggle for motivation as a casual supporter, particularly if I was looking at a spending decision of £65-70 for most games and knowing I'd never get a seat in the Holte.  The thought of trying to introduce kids to the club would seem pointless when the chances of getting seats together would be almost nil.

I agree. Fortunately we have had STs for years, but it's becoming almost impossible for any new people to get a season ticket.

The only viable way to introduce new family members is to share out the existing STs for those who have them, but the club are always trying to clamp down on that as well.

The move to compulsory digital season tickets will be a major hindrance to ST sharing, even within families.

It shouldn’t do, what’s to stop both loading it into their Apple Wallet or android equivalent? As long as they both try and attend the same game of course.

The RFU introduced digital ticketing a few years ago. Works brilliantly well, touts can’t sell them and sharing tickets with other app holders is quick and easy. The technology is there it’s whether we implement it.

[pauliewalnuts]

So by the sounds of it there's a new fan park building which I had assumed would be the warehouse, but it seems not.  I would have thought they'd need planning permission for this, so I'm not quite sure what they have in mind?

Where have you heard about that, if not through a planning application?

[London Villan]

Semi permanent marquee i reckon.

[dave.woodhall]

Is it me or do they always come across as ‘sniffy’?

I'd go further and say actually confrontational.

At best, Sir Humphrey Appleby. Worst - take your pick, they certainly sound like these meetings are a waste of their time and who are these plebs to question them. Heck may have found an excuse to no longer attend the meetings but he is personally responsible for the tone of his team unless new COO Ben Hatton is some kind of narcissist.

I do wonder about the future of these meetings. The Club will probably hang on in there before the fans drop them completely. Nobody can accuse the Club of blowing smoke up the arse of the fans, I'll give them that.

I know Jon Fear gets a bad rap at times, but he's got the right idea in my opinion and told them that his group will have nothing more to do with the meetings.

Should I do that? It's a serious question.

[London Villan]

When you get such condescending responses and little actual dialogue, let alone changes made following consultation, then it wouldn’t be a surprise if you did.

[Villan82]

Is it me or do they always come across as ‘sniffy’?

I'd go further and say actually confrontational.

At best, Sir Humphrey Appleby. Worst - take your pick, they certainly sound like these meetings are a waste of their time and who are these plebs to question them. Heck may have found an excuse to no longer attend the meetings but he is personally responsible for the tone of his team unless new COO Ben Hatton is some kind of narcissist.

I do wonder about the future of these meetings. The Club will probably hang on in there before the fans drop them completely. Nobody can accuse the Club of blowing smoke up the arse of the fans, I'll give them that.

I know Jon Fear gets a bad rap at times, but he's got the right idea in my opinion and told them that his group will have nothing more to do with the meetings.

Should I do that? It's a serious question.

For 5 years it felt like a journey, club and fans united. Everything was positive. There were a couple of bumps on the road of course but we had found our way back to Europe and there were big plans afoot for the club. Yes, there were hints that all was not rosey behind the scenes at time but all in all it was great!

The last twelve months has felt different. The tone has been different. Things have been more cloak and dagger. The fans have become a bit of an afterthought. Big decisions have been made but no real explanation given. Fans were looking forward to a future-proofed, redeveloped stadium and it quietly got shelved.

It's as if we got to where we are and now they have determined that by spending very little they can tart up parts of the ground and get in a fan who will spend more. I hate it. They aren't even pretending to care.

I have found the past year or so quite concerning and I am really hoping that some of the things we are doing don't come back to haunt us in a few years.

[AV82EC]

Personally I’d always prefer to keep any dialogue channels open but express my displeasure at the current level of comms and “consultation”. It may fall on deaf ears but at least you’ve made your feelings known.

[Risso]

Should I do that? It's a serious question.

Completely up to you of course. It just sounds like there's a really confrontational edge to proceedings and the basic message coming out is they can do what they like. Under those circumstances it seems a bit pointless to me.

[VillaTim]

I applaud anyone who takes the time , effort and commitment to go to these meetings . I'm not sure the club would lose any sleep if the fans walked away . They'd probably put a spin on it saying a bunch of militants were attending anyway. It's a tough one but I don't think the club see it as anything more than a tick box exercise sadly . They really don't care.

[Risso]

I applaud anyone who takes the time , effort and commitment to go to these meetings . I'm not sure the club would lose any sleep if the fans walked away . They'd probably put a spin on it saying a bunch of militants were attending anyway. It's a tough one but I don't think the club see it as anything more than a tick box exercise sadly . They really don't care.

They have to hold them, under the new Premier League rules. I guess they don't have to pretend to care about any questions or points made though.