Next FAB meeting

[ChicagoLion]

i agree with the letter idea, not a complaint but the issues and questions raised on here.
Regarding your attendance Dave, I think that we should have someone there even if that isn't you.

[pablo_picasso]

i agree with the letter idea, not a complaint but the issues and questions raised on here.
Regarding your attendance Dave, I think that we should have someone there even if that isn't you.

That is a positive solution that is non confrontational. I like it.

And it would give us the answer definitively whether they are interested or not in the whole process.

[PeterWithesShin]

Let's get tough. The time for talking is over. Call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit them hard and hit them fast with a major, and I mean major, leaflet campaign, and while they're reeling from that, we'd follow up with a whist drive, a car boot sale, some street theatre and possibly even some benefit concerts.

[Dogtanian]

CLITORIS?

[exigo]

It's definitely a time to make sure fan representation is kept up. Whether you personally have a desire for that Dave, only you can answer. The club have to do it, we know if they didn't it would cease to exist in a heartbeat.
My take is that fan groups find a unified stance, and ideally escalate that representation within the allowed FAB framework. The FSA are seeing, and reporting on, a wide number of clubs who are taking fans for a ride. The more unified the response to that, the better. If we haven't already engaged the FSA on our issues with the way the club are riding roughshod over us, now is certainly the time. Everything from the way Heck 'consulted' and 'followed the process' for this monstrosity of a badge, to the way they've ripped out long-standing season ticket holders with laughable communication. Stand firm, or they'll push us away even more.

[amfy]

What about if the FAB try and meet without the club before each official meeting to develop a co-ordinated approach to the issues being raised?
I know it’s difficult to get everyone together, but a virtual meeting on Teams a couple of nights before might help to get everyone pulling in the same direction.
Maybe even if each time all the different reps could pick out and agree on one specific issue out of the agenda that they will not be letting go, and how they will go about doing that.

[Percy McCarthy]

What about if the FAB try and meet without the club before each official meeting to develop a co-ordinated approach to the issues being raised?
I know it’s difficult to get everyone together, but a virtual meeting on Teams a couple of nights before might help to get everyone pulling in the same direction.
Maybe even if each time all the different reps could pick out and agree on one specific issue out of the agenda that they will not be letting go, and how they will go about doing that.

Make it the Villa Tavern and I’m in.

[chrisw1]

I'm not sure the club are taking us for a ride.  They are meeting fans and explaining to some extent what they are doing.  They're not really interested in fan opinions as they feel they know best.

The reality is they want to increase income and some of the decisions to try to do that annoy many of us day to day fans.  But they're going to do it anyway.

They can't listen to every opinion.  When you do that you end up with stuff like a lamp shaped badge and 50 different walk-out songs, mostly heavy metal and suggested by middle-aged forum dwellers.  They would definitely move and never move, definitely knock down the North and keep the iconic stand.  It's impossible.

There's a clear direction of travel now.  It's an amazing manager, Champions League and the best team we've seen in 40 years.  It's also a big squeeze on day-to-day fans, reduced season ticket availability and less general sale too.  The football is amazing and the increase in corporate a bit shit.  Building the North would have solved a lot of the problems, but the cold hard numbers didn't stack up.  I'm a bit pissed off, but excited for next season.

They're still the best owners we've had in my lifetime.

[Neil Hawkes]

50 different walk-out songs, mostly heavy metal and suggested by middle-aged forum dwellers.

Oy - I'm old aged.

[RamboandBruno]

I'm not sure the club are taking us for a ride.  They are meeting fans and explaining to some extent what they are doing.  They're not really interested in fan opinions as they feel they know best.

The reality is they want to increase income and some of the decisions to try to do that annoy many of us day to day fans.  But they're going to do it anyway.

They can't listen to every opinion.  When you do that you end up with stuff like a lamp shaped badge and 50 different walk-out songs, mostly heavy metal and suggested by middle-aged forum dwellers.  They would definitely move and never move, definitely knock down the North and keep the iconic stand.  It's impossible.

There's a clear direction of travel now.  It's an amazing manager, Champions League and the best team we've seen in 40 years.  It's also a big squeeze on day-to-day fans, reduced season ticket availability and less general sale too.  The football is amazing and the increase in corporate a bit shit.  Building the North would have solved a lot of the problems, but the cold hard numbers didn't stack up.  I'm a bit pissed off, but excited for next season.

They're still the best owners we've had in my lifetime.

I agree with a lot of this and it can come across a bit ‘what did the Romans ever do for us…’. But i also think we have to be careful with thinking there is nothing we can do about anything and its all tough shit.

One or two points of principle to focus on and to create some common ground and a united front amongst fan groups would be more pointed abd potentially powerful than the wide range of things you mention. That point of principle could be pricing long standing season ticket holders out, they may not care about handfuls of individuals bleating, but representatives of 20,000 odd might make them think if it was the same message. The point of principle could be the toilets, the point remains the same, make them work to do the things they want to do that are not always in our interests.

[ironmaidenmania]

Let's get tough. The time for talking is over. Call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit them hard and hit them fast with a major, and I mean major, leaflet campaign, and while they're reeling from that, we'd follow up with a whist drive, a car boot sale, some street theatre and possibly even some benefit concerts.

Brilliant

[Villan82]

One or two points of principle sounds like a good idea.

Maybe just make number one, to stop treating us like we are an inconvenience?