Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa post match pint

[AV82EC]

That line seems to be on Morenos arse so what’s the issue?

[VillaTim]

That line seems to be on Morenos arse so what’s the issue?

the red line is on Baileys foot

[paul_e]

As I said on the match thread the more I look at the image with the dotted line the more it looks wrong, for me they seem to have carried the dotted line down too far so it's meeting the red line near his feet rather than beneath his arm.

[Villafirst]

I thought the ref was dreadful, but they all are. The offside was close, I'd say he was level & therefore onside, but I never seen VAR give a decision saying they are level. I didn't think it was a penalty on Watkins.

We were by far the better side & should have been well clear by the time they scored.

I've just watched Watkins get pushed over by Diop. I don't see how that wasn't a penalty??

[Somniloquism]

I thought the ref was dreadful, but they all are. The offside was close, I'd say he was level & therefore onside, but I never seen VAR give a decision saying they are level. I didn't think it was a penalty on Watkins.

We were by far the better side & should have been well clear by the time they scored.

They show that on the Sky Highlights. Looking at that it is one that VAR would have backed whatever the on-field decision would have been. Unfortunately this case the ref thought the ball had been lost to the keeper so the barge didn't change what would have happened. I didn't see the early Pereira (?) decision to when we all stated he dived, but the BBC text seems to think the decision by the ref/VAR was the challenge wasn't a penalty either.

[paul_e]

That line seems to be on Morenos arse so what’s the issue?

the red line is on Baileys foot

are they saying Bailey was active so was off ?

Stop talking about Bailey, he is absolutely nothing to do with the decision. Just take a few seconds to look at the image and there's clearly a dotted line next to Moreno.

[KevinGage]

If you ignore Bailey, the defender is keeping Moreno onside?

Is he? Look at the first picture and remember we are not direct on from the side of the pitch. So whilst Moreno is level on the picture, to be on he needs to be further to the right then the defender.

A good example of misleading angles for the view is to look at the far defender who also looks close to being level with them, but the line shows him half a foot further forward then the defender on the centre.

He was on

This is why VAR is not ready yet for ruling games. It’s still too subjective because we’re relying on opinions. It’s too fine a margin when we’re talking about timings, angles and placement of the camera.

I’m not sure what the answer is though.

A tolerance is the only answer when you have no technology to prove that the picture being used is the correct one as the ball being passed is a subjective decision not factual

The previous understanding pre VAR of benefit of the doubt being given to the attacker was a better system. VAR was designed to eliminate the howler, not analyse every marginal decision to the nth degree.

[VillaTim]

That line seems to be on Morenos arse so what’s the issue?

the red line is on Baileys foot

are they saying Bailey was active so was off ?

Stop talking about Bailey, he is absolutely nothing to do with the decision. Just take a few seconds to look at the image and there's clearly a dotted line next to Moreno.

No.
The line isn't even straight / parallel with the 6 yard line. Baileys foot is the most offside element of any player

[PaulWinch again]

I think the goal is down to Emi more than Lenglet, the latter must have got a call. But overall I thought they both had good games. Pau makes such a difference, he is top class, you can see the opposition are afraid to press him. He’s so comfortable on the ball, and 9/10 will find the right pass - brilliant player.

Ollie’s finishes were superb as well - great assist from Tielemans for the second, but he does need to work on his play a bit when we’re under pressure.

[Somniloquism]

That line seems to be on Morenos arse so what’s the issue?

the red line is on Baileys foot

The red line on the pitch is coincidently on Baileys foot, but is drawn down from Moreno's shoulder, hence the dotted red lines down right next to him.

[VillaTim]

That line seems to be on Morenos arse so what’s the issue?

the red line is on Baileys foot

The red line on the pitch is coincidently on Baileys foot, but is drawn down from Moreno's shoulder, hence the dotted red lines down right next to him.

blow it up and look at the red line and the 6 yard box line , they don't run parallel

[paul_e]

That line seems to be on Morenos arse so what’s the issue?

the red line is on Baileys foot

are they saying Bailey was active so was off ?

Stop talking about Bailey, he is absolutely nothing to do with the decision. Just take a few seconds to look at the image and there's clearly a dotted line next to Moreno.

No.
The line isn't even straight / parallel with the 6 yard line. Baileys foot is the most offside element of any player

IT'S A FUCKING COINCIDENCE, STOP TALKING BOLLOCKS.

[VillaTim]

That line seems to be on Morenos arse so what’s the issue?

the red line is on Baileys foot

are they saying Bailey was active so was off ?

Stop talking about Bailey, he is absolutely nothing to do with the decision. Just take a few seconds to look at the image and there's clearly a dotted line next to Moreno.

No.
The line isn't even straight / parallel with the 6 yard line. Baileys foot is the most offside element of any player

IT'S A FUCKING COINCIDENCE, STOP TALKING BOLLOCKS.

No, the line isn't drawn properly . Stop shouting

[paul_e]

No, the line isn't drawn properly . Stop shouting

SO you're saying it's got nothing to do with Baliey then, as you've bene told repeatedly? Thank fuck for that, you're exhaustingly dumb.

[PaulWinch again]

Got to be honest I can’t find myself getting too worked up about VAR when we’ve won. If we hadn’t won yes it would be annoying, but it’s a footnote to me.