Abject Villa v Chelsea post match thread.

[LeeS]

Looking at our abject defence it occurred to me that we don't seem to breed central defenders in the academy. Who was the last one to come through?

Cahill ?

And we sold him to accommodate Zat Knight

[Mister E]

Looking at our abject defence it occurred to me that we don't seem to breed central defenders in the academy. Who was the last one to come through?

Bogarde, Swinkels, and Feeney?! - don't know how good any of them are, other than that Feeney is highly rated and has been on our bench a couple of times.

[Mister E]

Against the jawdies and Chelski, we were apparently out-pressed, exposing our CB's and leaving our FB adrift (I missed both games). It seems pretty obvious that, without 3 first choice centre backs and with naturally-attacking fullbacks, the system would need to be adapted and more cover be provided from midfield. That clearly didn't happen. For Sunday, given the CB situation, they'd be best off playing Watkins and Rogers and playing the ball out quickly and directly rather than fannying about at the back.

[Ads]

Torres beats the press and then waltzes into midfield and plays a ball Pirlo would be proud of. Hard to defend against that without disrupting your shape. And of course when you do, space opens up for the transition to quicken. We cannot play the way we do effectively without him.

[eamonn]

Looking at our abject defence it occurred to me that we don't seem to breed central defenders in the academy. Who was the last one to come through?

Bogarde, Swinkels, and Feeney?! - don't know how good any of them are, other than that Feeney is highly rated and has been on our bench a couple of times.

None of them have made it yet. Who did we last blood and sell to do well?

[Mister E]

Looking at our abject defence it occurred to me that we don't seem to breed central defenders in the academy. Who was the last one to come through?

Bogarde, Swinkels, and Feeney?! - don't know how good any of them are, other than that Feeney is highly rated and has been on our bench a couple of times.

None of them have made it yet. Who did we last blood and sell to do well?

Agreed.
Baker and Ridgewell at a pinch; Cahill; Barry (played CB when he first came in); Ormsby.
Not a great CB factory, I'll grant you!

[London Villan]

I haven’t been able to bring myself to watch the goals, any care to explain how it went wrong each time?

[VillaTim]

Looking at our abject defence it occurred to me that we don't seem to breed central defenders in the academy. Who was the last one to come through?

Cahill ?

And we sold him to accommodate Zat Knight

we've certainly spunked some serious dollars on crap CB's down the years - Davis / Dunne / Collins / Engels / Okore / Lescott / Richards . etc

[edgysatsuma89]

The repeated suggestions that we were holding back in preparation for Sunday is a little bit delusional, in my opinion. People are reaching for a reason, there isn't one (barring injuries), we were just shit.

[Meanwood Villa]

Left before our goal and can’t even bring myself to search it out.

Me too. Still haven't seen his goal against Newcastle either.

[N'ZMAV]

interesting that our 4 best defenders not being available, and that's what happens.

[manic-road]

Looking at our abject defence it occurred to me that we don't seem to breed central defenders in the academy. Who was the last one to come through?

Cahill ?

And we sold him to accommodate Zat Knight

Ciaran Clark

[VillaTim]

Nathan Baker

[passport1]

I thought that the Pike tribute should have ended  pre match. Unfortunately  our players decided to continue  it into the game  by playing like Dad's Army.
If we can get a result on Sunday I remain confident with the fixtures  that follow  it will be onwards and upwards.

[Nev]

I haven’t been able to bring myself to watch the goals, any care to explain how it went wrong each time?

From memory Kamara was in possession for the first and toe poked it straight to two Chelsea players allowing them to break quickly, Gallagher was unmarked.
 Moreno had two players to mark on his own allowing the ball to come into the box, the worst striker in the league was unmarked.

The ref deemed that an air shot from a Chelsea player was a foul by Tielemens despite the lack of contact. The resulting free kick was sublime.