Abject Villa v Chelsea post match thread.

[The Edge]

Any side that has to start both their 4th and 5th choice CBs is going to see a drop off. Midfield needs to step up and last night they didn't, they were shit. Next 4 games are Man U (h), Fulham (a), Forest (h) and Luton (a). Plenty of points to be had there, it's up to the manger, coaches and players to get them.

Totally agree about the centre back situation. Lenglet and Carlos are only fit for back up imo. Our defence was woeful last night so much so that the world's best keeper couldn't save us from a demoralising defeat.The midfield went missing in action and Kamara had a kamikaze night to forget. And as if things couldn't get any worse I spent the half time chatting to a Sikh chap in the Trinity Rd who was visibly upset after being racially abused in the gents. Seems we still have a section of bigoted neanderthals in our midst. A thoroughly depressing evening all round although I did get to spend it with my lad who travelled back from uni for our first match together this season. I said to him that hopefully he'll get to see us lift the FA cup in his lifetime because I probably won't.

[LeeB]

Any side that has to start both their 4th and 5th choice CBs is going to see a drop off. Midfield needs to step up and last night they didn't, they were shit. Next 4 games are Man U (h), Fulham (a), Forest (h) and Luton (a). Plenty of points to be had there, it's up to the manger, coaches and players to get them.

Totally agree about the centre back situation. Lenglet and Carlos are only fit for back up imo. Our defence was woeful last night so much so that the world's best keeper couldn't save us from a demoralising defeat.The midfield went missing in action and Kamara had a kamikaze night to forget. And as if things couldn't get any worse I spent the half time chatting to a Sikh chap in the Trinity Rd who was visibly upset after being racially abused in the gents. Seems we still have a section of bigoted neanderthals in our midst. A thoroughly depressing evening all round although I did get to spend it with my lad who travelled back from uni for our first match together this season. I said to him that hopefully he'll get to see us lift the FA cup in his lifetime because I probably won't.

I wonder if it's chance that the abuse took place in the one place where the culprit couldn't be subsequently indentified on camera.

Fucking areshole.

[VinnieChase84]

The next month the biggest issue weve got to sort is this RB spot. Cash if he HAS to play then needs to treat it like a 3rd centre back and have zero license to go up field. His runs forward (and then snail pace cover/track back) meant Kamara was leaving CM to drop to RB and Tielemens dropping deeper to cover Kamara.
Doesnt work as moving key cogs out purely to cover

If Cash cannot do the disciplined RB role then we need to look at other options. Carlos maybe? pair Pau and Lenglet together for next few weeks?
Its a tricky one

[Risso]

The next month the biggest issue weve got to sort is this RB spot. Cash if he HAS to play then needs to treat it like a 3rd centre back and have zero license to go up field. His runs forward (and then snail pace cover/track back) meant Kamara was leaving CM to drop to RB and Tielemens dropping deeper to cover Kamara.
Doesnt work as moving key cogs out purely to cover

If Cash cannot do the disciplined RB role then we need to look at other options. Carlos maybe? pair Pau and Lenglet together for next few weeks?
Its a tricky one

Carlos hasn't got the pace or tactical nous to play in his natural position as a central defender. Moving him to right back would be a car crash and make things even worse.

[kippaxvilla2]

I think Cash has regressed badly this season.  Whether it’s a confidence thing but he just hardly ever seems to make runs forward now and his defending has always been suspect so not really adding much value currently.

[kippaxvilla2]

Give KKH a go can’t be much worse.

[Gareth]

The next month the biggest issue weve got to sort is this RB spot. Cash if he HAS to play then needs to treat it like a 3rd centre back and have zero license to go up field. His runs forward (and then snail pace cover/track back) meant Kamara was leaving CM to drop to RB and Tielemens dropping deeper to cover Kamara.
Doesnt work as moving key cogs out purely to cover

If Cash cannot do the disciplined RB role then we need to look at other options. Carlos maybe? pair Pau and Lenglet together for next few weeks?
Its a tricky one

Well Kessler-Hayden has had 3 weeks training with the squad now, throw him in

[VinnieChase84]

Profile wise, as close to Konsa as we can get. Bogarde

[PeterWithesShin]

Any side that has to start both their 4th and 5th choice CBs is going to see a drop off. Midfield needs to step up and last night they didn't, they were shit. Next 4 games are Man U (h), Fulham (a), Forest (h) and Luton (a). Plenty of points to be had there, it's up to the manger, coaches and players to get them.

Totally agree about the centre back situation. Lenglet and Carlos are only fit for back up imo. Our defence was woeful last night so much so that the world's best keeper couldn't save us from a demoralising defeat.The midfield went missing in action and Kamara had a kamikaze night to forget. And as if things couldn't get any worse I spent the half time chatting to a Sikh chap in the Trinity Rd who was visibly upset after being racially abused in the gents. Seems we still have a section of bigoted neanderthals in our midst. A thoroughly depressing evening all round although I did get to spend it with my lad who travelled back from uni for our first match together this season. I said to him that hopefully he'll get to see us lift the FA cup in his lifetime because I probably won't.

I hope the fella reported it to the club. They could potentially identify him from CCTV on the concourse. It's sad that such shit still goes these days.

[trinityoap]

Last night it almost seemed as if the aim was to get through the match without any injuries or red cards.

[PeterWithe]

Although.

I see that Jackson, who has proven himself incapable of hitting a barn door from three paces, is playing.

Traditionally, we all know what would happen now.

*stabs self in face with large knife*

I was just getting out of my car listening to the radio commentary when he scored, I immediately thought of this post.

[VillaTim]

Last night it almost seemed as if the aim was to get through the match without any injuries or red cards.

Carlos seemed to be going out of his way to get sent off. I can only put the lack of effort and intensity being down to instructions to conserve energy for Sunday.

[Rotterdam]

We were rubbish.
They were half decent.
The subs were made too late.
The ref was awful.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

We were rubbish.
They were half decent.
The subs were made too late.
The ref was awful.

The ref didn’t appear to be in possession of a pair of bollocks.

[taylorsworkrate]

We were rubbish.
They were half decent.
The subs were made too late.
The ref was awful.

Was the ref awful though? I know football fans like to complain about referees but I don't think he did too much wrong to be honest. The free kick for the 3rd goal was incorrect but from the referees angle of view it may have looked different