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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #45 on: January 31, 2024, 03:49:57 PM »
If it were to be closed down by current owners, surely it would be prime for a takeover and conversion into a Desi Pub

What is a Desi Pub?

Edit - I know the Geographical area Desi refers to, just wondering how it applies to a pub?
i've had a look , it's basically a curry house masquerading as a pub. Not like there aren't enough curry houses in Brum already. They're ok, there's a couple by us , but if i wanted a curry i'd rather go to a proper restaurant

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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #46 on: January 31, 2024, 03:54:14 PM »
They're getting more popular and are often quite sports-oriented.  Usually well known for their mixed grills.  But I suspect the location would still struggle even with a decent Desi and surely on a match day they wouldn't be able to cope with the numbers?

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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2024, 03:57:05 PM »
If it were to be closed down by current owners, surely it would be prime for a takeover and conversion into a Desi Pub

What is a Desi Pub?

Edit - I know the Geographical area Desi refers to, just wondering how it applies to a pub?
i've had a look , it's basically a curry house masquerading as a pub. Not like there aren't enough curry houses in Brum already. They're ok, there's a couple by us , but if i wanted a curry i'd rather go to a proper restaurant

But if you wanted a curry or some spicy flavoured protein with a choice of draught real ales or lagers? 

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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2024, 03:59:19 PM »
I'm doing the lottery tonight and if I win, I'm buying it.

It's coming home.





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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #49 on: January 31, 2024, 04:01:14 PM »
If it were to be closed down by current owners, surely it would be prime for a takeover and conversion into a Desi Pub

What is a Desi Pub?

Edit - I know the Geographical area Desi refers to, just wondering how it applies to a pub?
i've had a look , it's basically a curry house masquerading as a pub. Not like there aren't enough curry houses in Brum already. They're ok, there's a couple by us , but if i wanted a curry i'd rather go to a proper restaurant

But if you wanted a curry or some spicy flavoured protein with a choice of draught real ales or lagers?
what's wrong with a 660ml bottle of Cobra

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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #50 on: January 31, 2024, 04:03:53 PM »
Much as I like The Bartons, certainly from an aesthetical point of view, the news is hardly surprising. Like almost every other pub in the area there is virtually no other market beyond match day and I'm surprised it's lasted this long. We use it mostly midweek when driving is the only option, not sure what to do next Weds. The ground is hardly enticing,  the likes of the Social and the Heart just too busy and the previously suggested VT the wrong side of the ground.
If I could get back into Town relatively easily I'd leave my car at work.

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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #51 on: January 31, 2024, 04:11:50 PM »
Witton Arms ?

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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #52 on: January 31, 2024, 04:13:59 PM »
A spokesperson for the Red Pub Company, the current leaseholder of the venue, said: "A rise in running costs has sadly made the Barton Arms unviable and it is with a heavy heart that we have made this decision.
"The costs of heating, lighting and power combined with the higher costs of employing people and general food cost increases have meant that the business is no longer viable; so with immediate effect we've shut the doors.
"Hopefully there will be some better news for you to report soon however that is currently beyond my control."

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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #53 on: January 31, 2024, 04:18:56 PM »
If it were to be closed down by current owners, surely it would be prime for a takeover and conversion into a Desi Pub

What is a Desi Pub?

Edit - I know the Geographical area Desi refers to, just wondering how it applies to a pub?
i've had a look , it's basically a curry house masquerading as a pub. Not like there aren't enough curry houses in Brum already. They're ok, there's a couple by us , but if i wanted a curry i'd rather go to a proper restaurant

But if you wanted a curry or some spicy flavoured protein with a choice of draught real ales or lagers?
what's wrong with a 660ml bottle of Cobra

What’s wrong with your brain

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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #54 on: January 31, 2024, 04:19:19 PM »
Such a shame.....i've never set foot in the Bartons and it was on my to do list. I've always used pubs on the Aston Church Road side of the ground, Villa Tavern etc, mainly because of my Villa upbringing walking from Saltley Gate.....what a sorry state we have with pubs. Im suprised the Albion Vaults is still open
« Last Edit: January 31, 2024, 04:28:25 PM by waynejames »

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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #55 on: January 31, 2024, 04:19:23 PM »
They're getting more popular and are often quite sports-oriented.  Usually well known for their mixed grills.  But I suspect the location would still struggle even with a decent Desi and surely on a match day they wouldn't be able to cope with the numbers?

 A lot of them are in some very unpromising places, I guess as the rent or purchase price is commensurate. The Vine by WBA was one of the first ones and does very well on matchday with a limited menu I think.

I think what would really put people off opening a desi there is whats closed it this time, the utility costs. Why open there when you could do it elsewhere with far lower running cost? Plus, in a GII listed building, you may very well struggle to get planning to make the alterations to the kitchen needed.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2024, 05:17:02 PM by PeterWithe »

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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #56 on: January 31, 2024, 04:24:33 PM »
What a shame, I've often wondered if match day revenue made up for all the times I've been in the week and been pretty much the only one there.

I’ve never been before a match but whenever I’ve been for food either midweek or a weekend I’ve been surprised how busy it is for its location. I think I’m right in saying that it sits just inside the clean air zone, so you now have to pay to drive to it as well.

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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #57 on: January 31, 2024, 04:27:23 PM »
No that starts a little bit further down the road, where Birchfield Rd crosses Newtown Row, or is it Middleway.


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Re: The Barton's Arms
« Reply #59 on: January 31, 2024, 04:33:33 PM »
 There is a desi pub up near Hockley Circus/Soho Road area that seems to be doing ok.....for the life of me i can't remember it's name or former name when it was a pub.
Could be a good option for a drink when if we ever play the bitters again..........
« Last Edit: January 31, 2024, 04:35:04 PM by waynejames »

 


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