Aston Villa 1-3 Newcastle Post match cry

[Risso]

Emery didn’t say that. He said Bailey had a slight problem before the Chelsea game, and then he (Emery) decided to start with the same team against Newcastle.

[AV82EC]

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Tielemans 3 - not capable of playing that role on left, not mobile or disciplined enough. So either he drops into a midfield three or drops out

You're very generous, Bronty. It was as poor a midfield performance I've seen in a very, very long time. Another of our supposed talented players who went hiding. He's better of the bench. Once again he's shown he's no starter.

[Rory]

This team, this manager has given me an year of pure pleasure sitting in my seat at Villa Park. So whilst disappointed with the result tonight I am not going to go in hyperbole mode like some of you on here and start using awful words to describe our performance, and signalling individuals out in most unpleasant derogatory manner.  Just get a grip folks.
Yes we need to take stock of where we are and go again. It’s a challenge now for Unai to recover our composure and rebuild cohesion and vibrancy that delivered unbelievable run of results.  But there is no need to jump off the cliff for anyone, please stay calm.

Steady on, MLK!

(I agree, of course, Aftab 🙂)

[Toronto Villa]

I know we lost and the performance wasn’t the best. And we have looked off our game for a little while now. But there are some on social media, Twitter in particular that have just lost the lost their fucking minds. As grim as this defeat was it’s still incredible where we are and that we are very much in a fight for a CL spot even if that looks a little more remote now, and two cups. Hard to do sometimes but we need to enjoy this more.

[LeonW]

Those that have said that this has been coming for awhile, I agree. We haven’t reached the heights we set over the majority of 2023 since the first 15 mins at home to arsenal.

Since then we’ve not been on it. The rest of December I put down to potential fatigue by the number of games we had to play. But having had a small break and reduced games, it’s not that. We’ve been average at best.

I do wonder weather we can’t really play many other ways then what we’ve seen with the players we currently have; either front loading Diaby and Bailey down the right or the square with Tielemens at the apex. Both seem to have been found out. I’m not so sure that Torres coming back with his passing would resolving things.

I’ve said it since the last summer but I think we badly need a target man for when teams want to push us wide and we need a central midfielder who can aggressively press with pace and physicality to disrupt teams, providing more breathing room for the likes of Luiz.

One thing seems definite; the club are not going to accelerate anything for the sake of a single season, no matter how well we started. The plan is long term and it’s not budging.

Unless Emery can magic something new up I think this season could well peter out.

And one other thing is really bothering me; we’ve had two games this season which i would consider cup finals of sorts; Man Utd away and this Newcastle home game. Both were opportunities to pretty much knock out competition for a CL place by opening up a very big points lead over each. We blew both. 

[jwarry]

Those that have said that this has been coming for awhile, I agree. We haven’t reached the heights we set over the majority of 2023 since the first 15 mins at home to arsenal.

Since then we’ve not been on it. The rest of December I put down to potential fatigue by the number of games we had to play. But having had a small break and reduced games, it’s not that. We’ve been average at best.

I do wonder weather we can’t really play many other ways then what we’ve seen with the players we currently have; either front loading Diaby and Bailey down the right or the square with Tielemens at the apex. Both seem to have been found out. I’m not so sure that Torres coming back with his passing would resolving things.

I’ve said it since the last summer but I think we badly need a target man for when teams want to push us wide and we need a central midfielder who can aggressively press with pace and physicality to disrupt teams, providing more breathing room for the likes of Luiz.

One thing seems definite; the club are not going to accelerate anything for the sake of a single season, no matter how well we started. The plan is long term and it’s not budging.

Unless Emery can magic something new up I think this season could well peter out.

And one other thing is really bothering me; we’ve had two games this season which i would consider cup finals of sorts; Man Utd away and this Newcastle home game. Both were opportunities to pretty much knock out competition for a CL place by opening up a very big points lead over each. We blew both. 

I dunno we had two pretty big ‘cup finals’ against Citeh and Arse and came through them! To me it’s just the injuries have finally caught up with us and we haven’t been able to strengthen but neither have our rivals so Unai just needs to work his magic again

[ez]

Playing out from the back has become ineffective. The defenders get pushed back into the corners and the midfielders don't make themselves available.

[Hillbilly]

I think Moreno was effective last season because he combined well with Ramsey. Both are not yet up to speed. Luiz, Kamara and McGinn don't seem to be able to turn players when receiving the ball as well as they did. Kamara doesn't seem to drop in as a third centre back as much as he did. Torres is as important in an attacking sense as he is in defence.

Kicking the ball high towards a defence with an average height of 7'3" didn't help either.

[LeonW]

Those that have said that this has been coming for awhile, I agree. We haven’t reached the heights we set over the majority of 2023 since the first 15 mins at home to arsenal.

Since then we’ve not been on it. The rest of December I put down to potential fatigue by the number of games we had to play. But having had a small break and reduced games, it’s not that. We’ve been average at best.

I do wonder weather we can’t really play many other ways then what we’ve seen with the players we currently have; either front loading Diaby and Bailey down the right or the square with Tielemens at the apex. Both seem to have been found out. I’m not so sure that Torres coming back with his passing would resolving things.

I’ve said it since the last summer but I think we badly need a target man for when teams want to push us wide and we need a central midfielder who can aggressively press with pace and physicality to disrupt teams, providing more breathing room for the likes of Luiz.

One thing seems definite; the club are not going to accelerate anything for the sake of a single season, no matter how well we started. The plan is long term and it’s not budging.

Unless Emery can magic something new up I think this season could well peter out.

And one other thing is really bothering me; we’ve had two games this season which i would consider cup finals of sorts; Man Utd away and this Newcastle home game. Both were opportunities to pretty much knock out competition for a CL place by opening up a very big points lead over each. We blew both. 

I dunno we had two pretty big ‘cup finals’ against Citeh and Arse and came through them! To me it’s just the injuries have finally caught up with us and we haven’t been able to strengthen but neither have our rivals so Unai just needs to work his magic again

No I get that. It’s just a personal gripe really. Strategically, we could have most likely knocked both into touch and haven’t. I’m sure it’s not being sold like that to the players. Just personal feeling and it’s a shame.

[RamboandBruno]

I think Moreno was effective last season because he combined well with Ramsey. Both are not yet up to speed. Luiz, Kamara and McGinn don't seem to be able to turn players when receiving the ball as well as they did. Kamara doesn't seem to drop in as a third centre back as much as he did. Torres is as important in an attacking sense as he is in defence.

Kicking the ball high towards a defence with an average height of 7'3" didn't help either.

Very good points about the Moreno Ramsey link up and Torres, all massive factors for us at the moment.

[Demitri_C]

The morning after and it still feels fecking dog shit

I just cannot phantom why we were so bad. You cant blame fatigue, we had a day extra rest from Newcastle on top of the two week break.

I put that performance up there with manure 2nd half. It mirrored it. Someone meeds to remind the players its a 38 game season not a 24 one as they seem to already think we have finished in top 4 and we are gonna be fifth tonight after spurs win.

Even with torres being injured we should still be able to defend better. We also have most of our attacking players back so why are we so embarrassingly poor going forward lately? Slow taking far too many passes and just wasteful/make wrong decisions when we get in opposition box?

Losing 5-1 and 3-1 in a season is simply pathetic.  They should have been determined to set the record straight after first game but acted like cowards for most of the game. Only bailey and mcginn showed some fight yesterday

[ChicagoLion]

Against Brentford we lost our discipline our rhythm and Kamara.
We have struggled since then.
Those performance against Citeh and Arse seem a long way away.
I don’t think we can blame it all on injuries, too many players are out of form and it looks like teams know how to play us.

[manic-road]

Couldn't get our game going last night due to Newcastles high press which resulted in Emi kicking long passes instead of our normal patient build up, a few players look off it at the moment and to be honest we haven't played well for a few weeks now. Hoping for a turnaround in form very soon.

[Clampy]

A defeat had been coming but you never know, it might do us some good in an odd kind of way. Hopefully Ramsey is not too far away and the new lad give us another option.

Saw a picture of the offside call. Another toenail effort.