collapse collapse

* - On Sale NOW -

Claret Blue and Green

The story of Aston Villa’s Irish connection

£9.99 plus postage

For ROW Postage please email iotp@heroespublishing.net

Postal Location

Recent Topics

Standard of Refereeing by LeeB
[Today at 04:03:34 PM]


Morgan Rogers by LeeB
[Today at 04:02:22 PM]


Lamare Bogarde by eamonn
[Today at 03:59:39 PM]


Summer 26 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by robleflaneur
[Today at 03:57:15 PM]


Emi Buendia by eamonn
[Today at 03:55:55 PM]


Douglas Luiz - back home on loan by LeeB
[Today at 03:55:32 PM]


Villa Park Redevelopment by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 03:35:51 PM]


Pau Torres by PaulWinch again
[Today at 02:14:35 PM]

Recent Posts

Re: Standard of Refereeing by LeeB
[Today at 04:03:34 PM]


Re: Morgan Rogers by LeeB
[Today at 04:02:22 PM]


Re: Lamare Bogarde by eamonn
[Today at 03:59:39 PM]


Re: Morgan Rogers by Dante Lavelli
[Today at 03:58:30 PM]


Re: Summer 26 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by robleflaneur
[Today at 03:57:15 PM]


Re: Emi Buendia by eamonn
[Today at 03:55:55 PM]


Re: Douglas Luiz - back home on loan by LeeB
[Today at 03:55:32 PM]


Re: Douglas Luiz - back home on loan by London Villan
[Today at 03:55:00 PM]

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Morgan Rogers  (Read 413458 times)

Offline Rigadon

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10038
  • GM : 13.06.26
Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #3585 on: Today at 12:51:16 PM »
He should be the last player we're looking to sell, we should be building a team around him. This season I think he's suffered growing pains to be the player he and we all want him to be. Next season I truly believe it will all come together for him and he'll have an amazing season.

 

For Arsenal / Man Utd / Bayern etc...

This is less about what the Villa wants and ore to do with his ambitions to win leagues / CLs.  I actually think we are more likely than at any point since I've been an adult (I'm in my 50s) to have an outside chance of a title challenge, if we keep the core players and add 2 top quality options up front adn as cover in midfield.   Does Rogers feel that way?  That's probably the key to all of this, along with the enormous amount more money he could earn at a club playing in cheat mode financially.

Offline Drummond

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 35525
  • Location: Everywhere, and nowhere.
  • GM : 17.10.2026
Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #3586 on: Today at 12:55:55 PM »
One wonders if the plan all along has been for him to go and that's part of the reason Emery has played him for every game. Now he's got World Cup too he'll not be the same next season, or will flag as it goes on..

Online PaulWinch again

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 59042
  • Location: winchester
  • GM : 27.05.2027
Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #3587 on: Today at 12:59:10 PM »
If they planned for him to go I would suspect it’s less likely they’d play him all the time.

Online Brend'Watkins

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 24362
  • Location: North Birmingham Clique teritory
  • GM : 23.07.2026
Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #3588 on: Today at 01:11:23 PM »
A good report and good to see that Emery has aided so well in his development. I like that Rogers attempts a different way to play to what is deemed a normal approach. For the sake of my nerves I just wish he didn’t do that on our 18 yard box.

Online Brend'Watkins

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 24362
  • Location: North Birmingham Clique teritory
  • GM : 23.07.2026
Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #3589 on: Today at 01:15:03 PM »
One wonders if the plan all along has been for him to go and that's part of the reason Emery has played him for every game. Now he's got World Cup too he'll not be the same next season, or will flag as it goes on..

Depending how far England go and assuming they make it to the semifinals I think his club football would start mid September at the earliest.

Offline Smithy

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7686
  • Location: Windsor, Royal Berkshire, la de da
  • GM : 30.04.2027
Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #3590 on: Today at 01:51:21 PM »
Maybe, but one thing we haven't been brilliant at is recruitment (Rogers excepted)

I think last summer was underwhelming in the extreme, but we were severely hamstrung after the final day debacle.  However, I would say that generally speaking, our transfer business since we came back into the Premier League has been well above average.  Certainly a far cry from the few years before we got relegated.

I was chatting to a West Ham fan (before they got relegated) about how much money they'd wasted, and he was bemoaning why his club couldn't find and pick rough-diamond bargains like Rogers and Duran.

We've had bad buys, all clubs have, but I would say that we perform at an above-average level in terms of the transfer business we do.  None of our top 10 most expensive players have been what you'd call a 'flop' - though they haven't all been 'successes' either.   It's a far cry from the time we were paying top dollar to buy players on their last contract with no resale value who seemed to get worse the moment we signed them.

Offline Dick Edwards

  • Member
  • Posts: 623
Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #3591 on: Today at 02:13:35 PM »
Maybe, but one thing we haven't been brilliant at is recruitment (Rogers excepted)
Torres, Maatsen, Onana, Tielemans, Bizot, Lindelof, Barkley, all made significant contributions to our season.

Offline chrisw1

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10240
  • GM : 21.08.2026
Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #3592 on: Today at 02:42:46 PM »
Maybe, but one thing we haven't been brilliant at is recruitment (Rogers excepted)
Torres, Maatsen, Onana, Tielemans, Bizot, Lindelof, Barkley, all made significant contributions to our season.
This has been done to death, but Maatsen was huge money and whilst he's contributed, he's hardly been great business.

We paid far too much for Onana too.  He may become excellent in time, but he hasn't really lived up to our record signing price tag.

Obviously Tielemans, Pau and Rogers are our stars and some of the squad players were very good business.  But the counterpoints are Malen (who I liked), Guessand, Sancho, Moreno, Barrenchea, Garcia.  The jury is out on Abraham. Philogene was a flip, but we still couldn't make him work.

I think the fact that against Liverpool we started with 7 of the same players who started the 7-2 5.5 years ago is telling (Barkley's second spell of course).

I'm not trying to be too negative, Emery has worked miracles.  But I still think it's reasonable to question our transfer business.

Online brontebilly

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 13328
  • GM : 23.06.2026
Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #3593 on: Today at 03:10:56 PM »
Maatsen and Onana, there was funny business with Chelsea and Everton that summer so true price may be masked a bit. At this stage though both should be firmly in our starting X1 and that's not the case. Maatsen should definitely be ahead of Digne, 33 this summer, and looked to be the case midway during the season but certainly wasn't by the end. Onana, his form is mixed at best when he is fit, which simply isn't often enough.

The rest are a mixed bag as with most clubs, spectacular successes (Rogers, Tielemans, Torres), solid (Bizot, Lindelof), duds (Sancho, Elliot, Guessand, Garcia).

Online LeeB

  • Member
  • Posts: 37243
  • Location: Standing in the Klix-O-Gum queue.
  • GM : May, 2014
Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #3594 on: Today at 03:24:34 PM »
Maatsen and Onana, there was funny business with Chelsea and Everton that summer so true price may be masked a bit. At this stage though both should be firmly in our starting X1 and that's not the case. Maatsen should definitely be ahead of Digne, 33 this summer, and looked to be the case midway during the season but certainly wasn't by the end. Onana, his form is mixed at best when he is fit, which simply isn't often enough.

The rest are a mixed bag as with most clubs, spectacular successes (Rogers, Tielemans, Torres), solid (Bizot, Lindelof), duds (Sancho, Elliot, Guessand, Garcia).

Although you clearly hate Onana, he absolutely is a first choice starter.

Online robleflaneur

  • Member
  • Posts: 916
Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #3595 on: Today at 03:47:03 PM »
2 tweaks changed our last few weeks.Lindelof in for the injured Onana and Buendia taking over the Roger's role.Our midfield became the dominating force again.
It also enabled Rogers to find his near perfect position, an almost second striker playing on the right.Playing on the left would have been ideal for Rogers but not for Villa.
As an attacking midfielder,his shielding and keeping possession of the ball and passing can be disappointing at times.Look at MGW as an ideal fit for that role.Emery likes him to receive the ball infield at times and doesn't see him as a Sancho/ Bailey touchline hugging player and Rogers would be restricted in that role.
Playing further forward,Rogers has got out of the congested midfield ,,usually on the right ,dropping deeper or getting closer to Ollie,he can go and seek space wherever he can.Running  at defenders,he's a frightening prospect.As he mentioned in his interview,getting into the box for close range goals is a bigger possibility now,as with the 3rd v Freiburg.
Corners on the left also allow to return to that side and score v Liverpool or provide an assist for Youri's Final opener.
Arteta rates him.They have Eze  or Odegaard as their no.10,and the obvious spot for Rogers would be wide left.I can see a Grealish scenario,picking up money and medals but not a career progression.
Arsenal have a lot of midfielders who are good at stopping the opposition but aren't that creative,then I don't see Rogers getting the space that he thrives on.

Online Dante Lavelli

  • Member
  • Posts: 11582
  • GM : 25.05.2023
Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #3596 on: Today at 03:58:30 PM »
One wonders if the plan all along has been for him to go and that's part of the reason Emery has played him for every game. Now he's got World Cup too he'll not be the same next season, or will flag as it goes on..

That crossed my mind too.  Play him into the ground, knowing the tired version will be another club's problem.

Online LeeB

  • Member
  • Posts: 37243
  • Location: Standing in the Klix-O-Gum queue.
  • GM : May, 2014
Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #3597 on: Today at 04:02:22 PM »
I doubt that very, very much.

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal