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Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2175 on: May 25, 2025, 08:33:23 PM »
Don't sign Asensio and play Rogers in his best position next season.

Offline Tony Daleys Shorts

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2176 on: May 25, 2025, 08:34:54 PM »
He’s a far better player centrally rather than stuck out on the right wing. Baffling Emery has negated one of our main strengths by continually playing him out of position.

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2177 on: May 25, 2025, 08:41:51 PM »
In his anonymous half, he still scored 2 and assisted 6 in the league.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2025, 08:45:49 PM by Somniloquism »

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2178 on: May 25, 2025, 08:41:56 PM »
Great first half of season, Anonymous for most of the 2nd part. I think the hype has given him a place to hide.

Positional change more to blame. I get the sense Emery needs to take a stronger line with him next season. He gets away with more than nearly every other player.

Offline AV84

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2179 on: May 25, 2025, 08:44:12 PM »
I think our January signings were great initially, but when we had a full squad to pick from, trying to fit everyone in was more disruptive than was helpful. Rogers was played out of position and his form dropped off.

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2180 on: May 25, 2025, 09:09:03 PM »
Over the last couple of months, it’s not that his general performances have been off, he has been unable to do the simplest of things.
He has ambled through games, not tracked back, been tackled far too easily and made atrocious decisions.
He has been completely out of the form we recognise him for.

But.

He has looked knackered. Utterly and completely knackered.
I presume his ‘numbers’ have been ok which is why he has continued to be selected.
But it’s not about numbers and science, it’s about on the field performances and his have been way off.


I hope he gets a rest this summer and comes back as the player we saw before February.
AND PLAYING ON THE LEFT.

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2181 on: May 25, 2025, 09:09:16 PM »
I think our January signings were great initially, but when we had a full squad to pick from, trying to fit everyone in was more disruptive than was helpful. Rogers was played out of position and his form dropped off.

This is of course backed up by us winning 8 of our last 10 league games and beating PSG at home once everyone was fit.

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2182 on: May 25, 2025, 09:11:45 PM »
Given that he's gone from a player Middlesbrough shrugged their shoulders about losing to one of the best in Europe in about sixteen months, it doesn't strike me as impossible that he could improve how he plays on the right. I wouldn't mind having the option to play him either side to give more tactical options and target weaker defenders.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2025, 09:16:18 PM by cdbearsfan »

Offline AV84

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2183 on: May 25, 2025, 09:12:18 PM »
^ I'm talking about Rogers performances, not the results.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2184 on: May 25, 2025, 09:16:03 PM »
I think our January signings were great initially, but when we had a full squad to pick from, trying to fit everyone in was more disruptive than was helpful. Rogers was played out of position and his form dropped off.

This is of course backed up by us winning 8 of our last 10 league games and beating PSG at home once everyone was fit.

We won lots of games at the start of the season with Rogers as AM. Think it was five of the first 8 in the league and Young Boys, Munich and Bologna beaten in CL.

To me his ability is negated too much on the right and he's on the fringes of the game. Centrally of course he needs to learn to pass quicker when running but at his best he's a supreme ball carrier that all the best teams need.

I don't mind Asensio coming back but not if the only option is he basically plays every game when he's fully fit at AM as that will limit Rogers too much.

He's also played a huge amount of minutes this season. I think when he was moved to the right people were expecting him to miss the odd game for Malen but it hasn't happened either.

At least him being named in the full England squad again means he won't be in the under 21s squad so will get a full month off to recover.

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2185 on: May 25, 2025, 09:19:12 PM »
For a player who started as a winger, he's bobbins on the right. But there are basics that over the last 6-9 weeks he has simply done poorly. He has been very poor in possession, giving the ball away at will, and his impact has been massively reduced. I do though think he is better coming from deeper, but he is more of an 8 than an out and out 10 for me, but like Ramsey, is better on the left.

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2186 on: May 25, 2025, 09:21:25 PM »
^ I'm talking about Rogers performances, not the results.

Yes, but your blaming his less productive 2nd half of the season on us having some actual depth in the squad, which allowed us to push from mid-table to nearly making the CL.

There are plenty of alternative explanations:

He's struggled with fitness and isn't as sharp as he was early the season.
His early season form led to managers singling him out for tactical decisions.
He's generally been a bit out of form.

All of those have had a major impact on his form.

Fingers crossed we find ways to address them without having to strip the squad down to 17-18 players capable of performing and hoping we don't get injuries.

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2187 on: May 25, 2025, 09:32:32 PM »
In fairness to him, even though he’s been off he still always creates chances and pretty regularly assists or scores.

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2188 on: May 25, 2025, 09:33:25 PM »
For a player who started as a winger, he's bobbins on the right. But there are basics that over the last 6-9 weeks he has simply done poorly. He has been very poor in possession, giving the ball away at will, and his impact has been massively reduced. I do though think he is better coming from deeper, but he is more of an 8 than an out and out 10 for me, but like Ramsey, is better on the left.

He's a 10 all day for me. When he gets turned on the ball high up the pitch he's a joy to watch. Wide areas aren't his friend.

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Re: Morgan Rogers
« Reply #2189 on: May 26, 2025, 12:08:00 AM »
I think he's too high up the pitch at 10, and far too careless with the ball. Which creates a real problem if your wide options are not creating or impacting. At the moment Emery likes McGinn and Rogers wide, neither of whom are necessarily wide players. I think the whole forward line needs a good re think, which might massively benefit Rogers, but he's got to retain possession better and give options better than he does right now in difficult games.

 


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