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Offline Risso

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #375 on: March 09, 2024, 12:41:32 PM »
I’m just hoping Rodgers doesn’t play tomorrow.

I can’t stand Rodgers. I hope he never plays a game for us.

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #376 on: March 09, 2024, 12:46:12 PM »
I hope Rodgers doesn't play tomorrow either. It'd just go to show how paper thin our squad is.

(Quickly googles in the hope there's a Rodgers in the U9s or something)

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #377 on: March 09, 2024, 12:57:48 PM »
I agree with signing potential, but this player is nowhere near ready for this level. The fact he's coming on as a sub and then being subbed off says it all. The fact he played at Ajax is truly bizarre .

Bailey was subbed on and off against Liverpool early in the season so Rogers isn't the first. The fact he played at Ajax isn't that bizarre either given Emery rested a load of regulars and we literally have no one else.
Yeah it's bizarre that we would sign a highly rated 21 year old who has been at Man City and represented his country over 40 times.
Spot on.Rated by Mark Harrison who was his youth coach at Albion and by Unai.
.He's the only player,because he was the best young player,that I can recall from the play off final between Lincoln and Blackpool.His Lincoln boss,Appleton,would later sign him on loan for Blackpool.
He's being asked to do a more defensive role that he's not best suited to.With Buendia hopefully available next year,Rogers would be back up for Watkins,Bailey and Diaby.
He's 6'3 and a very similar physical profile and career projectory to Ollie who started as a winger,a protection against the physicality of lower league football.

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #378 on: March 09, 2024, 01:12:45 PM »
I’m just hoping Rodgers doesn’t play tomorrow.
Perhaps Roy?
With Trigger on the pivot?




One for the oldies there!

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #379 on: March 09, 2024, 01:15:49 PM »
Just a hunch but I suspect he might have historically been a bit of a flat track bully, not in a bad way but better than the other youth players.  His schooling at WBA and especially Man City may mean tracking back and working hard to find space to receive passes is pretty foreign to him.

He’s touched on this in an interview where at each loan he’s had to learn new facets of the game.  He came across as pretty humble and with good self-awareness so a decent chance he’ll work hard to improve.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2024, 01:25:33 PM by Dante Lavelli »

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #380 on: March 09, 2024, 02:20:20 PM »
The bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here .

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #381 on: March 09, 2024, 02:39:11 PM »
The bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here .

I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #382 on: March 09, 2024, 02:40:51 PM »
The bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here .

I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.
I'm not sure he'd established himself in the championship. His stats are a bit underwhelming.

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #383 on: March 09, 2024, 02:44:51 PM »
The bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here .

I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.
I'm not sure he'd established himself in the championship. His stats are a bit underwhelming.
You seem very unwilling to even give the guy a chance.Has he done something to you or yours?

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #384 on: March 09, 2024, 02:48:07 PM »
The bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here .

I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.
I'm not sure he'd established himself in the championship. His stats are a bit underwhelming.
You seem very unwilling to even give the guy a chance.Has he done something to you or yours?
Very happy to give him a chance merely debating he looks totally out of his depth at the moment.

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #385 on: March 09, 2024, 02:59:48 PM »
The bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here .

I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.
I'm not sure he'd established himself in the championship. His stats are a bit underwhelming.
You seem very unwilling to even give the guy a chance.Has he done something to you or yours?
Very happy to give him a chance merely debating he looks totally out of his depth at the moment.
Weve seen glimpses of what he's capable of. I trust Emerys judgement so we'll have to wait and see.

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #386 on: March 09, 2024, 03:00:15 PM »
The bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here .

I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.
I'm not sure he'd established himself in the championship. His stats are a bit underwhelming.
You seem very unwilling to even give the guy a chance.Has he done something to you or yours?
Very happy to give him a chance merely debating he looks totally out of his depth at the moment.

Maybe give him a little bit of time before judging 🤷‍♂️ It not like he’s played 5-6 games and been shite. He’s had some minutes and no way anybody can judge him either way or debate it even.

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #387 on: March 09, 2024, 03:27:03 PM »
The bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here .

I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.
I'm not sure he'd established himself in the championship. His stats are a bit underwhelming.
You seem very unwilling to even give the guy a chance.Has he done something to you or yours?
Very happy to give him a chance merely debating he looks totally out of his depth at the moment.

I questioned his signing, depending on the price, so Im coming into this conversation not totally convinced by the kid, but to say he looks "totally out of his depth at the moment" is just plain wrong.

He has shown he can run with the ball, he has shown he can keep the ball in tight spaces & he has shown that he can get into good spaces to be able to be create decent scoring opportunities.

Granted, yes, the defensive side of his game needs a fair bit of work & he is a bit rough around the edges all round, but he has not shown anything in his game that suggests that he is "out of his depth".

I think of him as a player that needs to work with the manager to be able to do what Emery wants him to do all round, including defensive duties.

Especially if he is to play in Ramseys position.

And I think it's very much like when new players who come into the defence, where we struggle for four or five games until they get the hang of the intricacies of Emerys system.

I don't see Rogers any different to that, albeit he may take a bit longer due to his rawness & the fact that he has never really been asked to defend before.

Unless Emery decides to switch him up to striker, similar to the route Watkins has taken.

Rogers isn't fast / fast, but he isn't a slouch & at 6'3" with a decent build to his frame, he certainly has the potential to become a striker.

He has already shown that his movement gets him into scoring positions & thats without the same level of individual coaching that Watkins has been given by Emery.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2024, 03:29:13 PM by pablo_picasso »

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #388 on: March 09, 2024, 03:29:45 PM »
The bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here .

I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.
I'm not sure he'd established himself in the championship. His stats are a bit underwhelming.
You seem very unwilling to even give the guy a chance.Has he done something to you or yours?
Very happy to give him a chance merely debating he looks totally out of his depth at the moment.

I questioned his signing, depending on the price, so Im coming into this conversation not totally convinced by the kid, but to say he looks "totally out of his depth at the moment" is just plain wrong.

He has shown he can run with the ball, he has shown he can keep the ball in tight spaces & he has shown that he can get into good spaces to be able to be create decent scoring opportunities.

Granted, yes, the defensive side of his game needs a fair bit of work & he is a bit rough around the edges all round, but he has not shown anything in his game that suggests that he is "out of his depth".

I think of him as a player that needs to work with the manager to be able to do what Emery wants him to do all round, including defensive duties.

Especially if he is to play in Ramseys position.

And I think it's very much like when new players who come into the defence, where we struggle for four or five games until they get the hang of the intricacies of Emerys system.

I don't see Rogers any different to that, albeit he may take a bit longer due to his rawness & the fact that he has never really been asked to defend before.

Unless Emery decides to switch him up to striker, similar to the route Watkins has taken.

Rogers isn't fast / fast, but he isn't a slouch & at 6'3" with a decent build to his frame, he certainly has the potential to become a striker.

He has already shown that his movement gets him into scoring positions & thats without Emery offering the same level of individual coaching that Watkins has been given by Emery.

All that is completely wasted on someone who it seems is going to continually slag him off. Blocking is better.

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Re: Morgan Rogers - Signed
« Reply #389 on: March 09, 2024, 03:38:24 PM »
The bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here .

I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.
I'm not sure he'd established himself in the championship. His stats are a bit underwhelming.
You seem very unwilling to even give the guy a chance.Has he done something to you or yours?
Very happy to give him a chance merely debating he looks totally out of his depth at the moment.

I questioned his signing, depending on the price, so Im coming into this conversation not totally convinced by the kid, but to say he looks "totally out of his depth at the moment" is just plain wrong.

He has shown he can run with the ball, he has shown he can keep the ball in tight spaces & he has shown that he can get into good spaces to be able to be create decent scoring opportunities.

Granted, yes, the defensive side of his game needs a fair bit of work & he is a bit rough around the edges all round, but he has not shown anything in his game that suggests that he is "out of his depth".

I think of him as a player that needs to work with the manager to be able to do what Emery wants him to do all round, including defensive duties.

Especially if he is to play in Ramseys position.

And I think it's very much like when new players who come into the defence, where we struggle for four or five games until they get the hang of the intricacies of Emerys system.

I don't see Rogers any different to that, albeit he may take a bit longer due to his rawness & the fact that he has never really been asked to defend before.

Unless Emery decides to switch him up to striker, similar to the route Watkins has taken.

Rogers isn't fast / fast, but he isn't a slouch & at 6'3" with a decent build to his frame, he certainly has the potential to become a striker.

He has already shown that his movement gets him into scoring positions & thats without the same level of individual coaching that Watkins has been given by Emery.
Well He was valued at £1m not long ago, not sure if he's worth 800% more than that all of a sudden , time will tell.

 


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