I’m just hoping Rodgers doesn’t play tomorrow.
Quote from: brontebilly on March 09, 2024, 12:26:43 PMQuote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 09:54:43 AMI agree with signing potential, but this player is nowhere near ready for this level. The fact he's coming on as a sub and then being subbed off says it all. The fact he played at Ajax is truly bizarre .Bailey was subbed on and off against Liverpool early in the season so Rogers isn't the first. The fact he played at Ajax isn't that bizarre either given Emery rested a load of regulars and we literally have no one else.Yeah it's bizarre that we would sign a highly rated 21 year old who has been at Man City and represented his country over 40 times.
Quote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 09:54:43 AMI agree with signing potential, but this player is nowhere near ready for this level. The fact he's coming on as a sub and then being subbed off says it all. The fact he played at Ajax is truly bizarre .Bailey was subbed on and off against Liverpool early in the season so Rogers isn't the first. The fact he played at Ajax isn't that bizarre either given Emery rested a load of regulars and we literally have no one else.
I agree with signing potential, but this player is nowhere near ready for this level. The fact he's coming on as a sub and then being subbed off says it all. The fact he played at Ajax is truly bizarre .
The bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here .
Quote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 02:20:20 PMThe bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here . I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.
Quote from: frank black on March 09, 2024, 02:39:11 PMQuote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 02:20:20 PMThe bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here . I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.I'm not sure he'd established himself in the championship. His stats are a bit underwhelming.
Quote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 02:40:51 PMQuote from: frank black on March 09, 2024, 02:39:11 PMQuote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 02:20:20 PMThe bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here . I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.I'm not sure he'd established himself in the championship. His stats are a bit underwhelming.You seem very unwilling to even give the guy a chance.Has he done something to you or yours?
Quote from: The Edge on March 09, 2024, 02:44:51 PMQuote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 02:40:51 PMQuote from: frank black on March 09, 2024, 02:39:11 PMQuote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 02:20:20 PMThe bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here . I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.I'm not sure he'd established himself in the championship. His stats are a bit underwhelming.You seem very unwilling to even give the guy a chance.Has he done something to you or yours?Very happy to give him a chance merely debating he looks totally out of his depth at the moment.
Quote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 02:48:07 PMQuote from: The Edge on March 09, 2024, 02:44:51 PMQuote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 02:40:51 PMQuote from: frank black on March 09, 2024, 02:39:11 PMQuote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 02:20:20 PMThe bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here . I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.I'm not sure he'd established himself in the championship. His stats are a bit underwhelming.You seem very unwilling to even give the guy a chance.Has he done something to you or yours?Very happy to give him a chance merely debating he looks totally out of his depth at the moment.I questioned his signing, depending on the price, so Im coming into this conversation not totally convinced by the kid, but to say he looks "totally out of his depth at the moment" is just plain wrong. He has shown he can run with the ball, he has shown he can keep the ball in tight spaces & he has shown that he can get into good spaces to be able to be create decent scoring opportunities. Granted, yes, the defensive side of his game needs a fair bit of work & he is a bit rough around the edges all round, but he has not shown anything in his game that suggests that he is "out of his depth". I think of him as a player that needs to work with the manager to be able to do what Emery wants him to do all round, including defensive duties. Especially if he is to play in Ramseys position. And I think it's very much like when new players who come into the defence, where we struggle for four or five games until they get the hang of the intricacies of Emerys system. I don't see Rogers any different to that, albeit he may take a bit longer due to his rawness & the fact that he has never really been asked to defend before. Unless Emery decides to switch him up to striker, similar to the route Watkins has taken. Rogers isn't fast / fast, but he isn't a slouch & at 6'3" with a decent build to his frame, he certainly has the potential to become a striker. He has already shown that his movement gets him into scoring positions & thats without Emery offering the same level of individual coaching that Watkins has been given by Emery.
Quote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 02:48:07 PMQuote from: The Edge on March 09, 2024, 02:44:51 PMQuote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 02:40:51 PMQuote from: frank black on March 09, 2024, 02:39:11 PMQuote from: VillaTim on March 09, 2024, 02:20:20 PMThe bizarre thing is, he looks like he could benefit from a year or two loan playing regularly in the Championship. Once Buendia is fit and the others are back eg. Ramsey , he's getting nowhere near a game here . I wouldn’t be so quick to judge him. We’ve had plenty of new signings that have taken time to bed in, why should he be any different?. I don’t think playing more at a level he was obviously accomplished at would improve him. Seems to me like a decent player that’s finding his feet and adapting to a new club/level.I'm not sure he'd established himself in the championship. His stats are a bit underwhelming.You seem very unwilling to even give the guy a chance.Has he done something to you or yours?Very happy to give him a chance merely debating he looks totally out of his depth at the moment.I questioned his signing, depending on the price, so Im coming into this conversation not totally convinced by the kid, but to say he looks "totally out of his depth at the moment" is just plain wrong. He has shown he can run with the ball, he has shown he can keep the ball in tight spaces & he has shown that he can get into good spaces to be able to be create decent scoring opportunities. Granted, yes, the defensive side of his game needs a fair bit of work & he is a bit rough around the edges all round, but he has not shown anything in his game that suggests that he is "out of his depth". I think of him as a player that needs to work with the manager to be able to do what Emery wants him to do all round, including defensive duties. Especially if he is to play in Ramseys position. And I think it's very much like when new players who come into the defence, where we struggle for four or five games until they get the hang of the intricacies of Emerys system. I don't see Rogers any different to that, albeit he may take a bit longer due to his rawness & the fact that he has never really been asked to defend before. Unless Emery decides to switch him up to striker, similar to the route Watkins has taken. Rogers isn't fast / fast, but he isn't a slouch & at 6'3" with a decent build to his frame, he certainly has the potential to become a striker. He has already shown that his movement gets him into scoring positions & thats without the same level of individual coaching that Watkins has been given by Emery.