Morgan Rogers

[paul_e]

Just to be clear that wasn't my point, mine is that at some point a lack of international form has to come into the thinking and, like many players before him, Foden has never looked the same player for England as he is for his club.

[Somniloquism]

That is the point, if he wasn’t playing for them he wouldn’t.

Errr?

I think the really clumsy point is he wouldn't be getting 28 goals and being voted player of the season if he was at another club because the rest of the side must be carrying him to that level. But he does stand out there sometimes in more ways then say Grealish does who in theory is playing the opposite side. I expect some of his poorness for England IS down to them playing differently to City, but the same could be stated for some of our players who might get called up as well.

[tomd2103]

This lad is going to be a world beater, mark my words.

Saw a great stat on Twitter, I hope it's true. Completed dribbles in the Champions League this year:

Morgan Rogers - 16
Man City - 14

Yeah but it's all fluff until something happens from it. Love him but love the team more, he's a clog in the team, a beautiful one, absolutely by we need to take the next step. Admittedly it's taken us all, even Unai, by surprise, this wasn't supposed to happen until next season but as we're there, we're brilliantly developing the squad, why not follow the leader and start demanding more?

Of course I understand why, the last 20 odd years have been generally shite with the exception of getting promoted. Pearls to pigs with MON, the tool struggled to win at Villa Park, ffs. Dean restored some pride and we'll always love him for that. Unai has come in, seen his surroundings, sensed the pure love from the Villa fans (nothing like the Tarquins at Arsenal), owners who are supportive, everything clicks into place.

It will be interesting how far Morgan can grow. Right now he should count his lucky stars he's at a club like Aston Villa where as Cashy said, is on the up and with a manager that can help him develop. World beater? I'm a believer but he still has a lot to do. Right now I can't fault his attitude. I look forward to watching his development.

He's done really well, but I agree that he just needs to sharpen that end product to really take that next step. 

I still maintain that if financial restrictions werent an issue and we could add a real top quality number 10 and right sided player to the current squad (say Salah and Bernado Silva), along with a RCB or RB option, we would be genuine title challengers.

A real top quality number 10? What, to rotate with Rogers?

It's a hypothetical scenario, as we can't afford it, but if you added a world class player at number 10 and out wide right at this time, I think we would be close to challenging for the title.

I'm a big fan of Morgan Rogers and he has done really well since coming to us, but he's not quite the finished article just yet.  He may well be soon, given the way he is going and could be good enough to take us there in the coming seasons.

I'd say considering Rogers only joined in January of this year he's developing plenty fast enough. Who could have predicted he'd already be one of the first names on the team sheet?

Oh I agree.  It's been a meteoric rise really.  He's a great player to watch and brings some real excitement to games.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I'm sure that when we brought him in in January we all thought he was one for the future....he is, but the fact that he was playing almost immediately - and his progress and impact already - shows how much SUE rate him!
And now we do too!!!

[SamTheMouse]

I know Emery builds teams rather than relying on individual magic, but I do slightly get the sense that he's building this particular team around Rogers. The lad is already taking on a talismanic quality for us.

[kipeye]

The transformation of his style of play is simply amazing. At Boro he looked a decent (but no more) Championship player somewhere between a centre forward and a wide player-a bit like Ollie at Brentford but with less skill and speed. In his first couple of games for Villa, he looked like he was going to be a fringe player and maybe a stop-gap for injuries.
What he has fast become is a very unique bustling pocket player that combines skill with great strength. You could put him anywhere on the pitch and he is likely to cause mayhem. Morgan and Captain Chaos make an unbelievable pair to bring nightmares to absolutely any defender.
Bulldozers with skill are very rare, we have two of them.

[Sexual Ealing]

"Bulldozers with skill" is my go-to search term for pornography.

[olaftab]

I think he's been a better signing than Ross McCormack and I'll happily fight anyone who says otherwise.

Very very marginal but I will go with you and also because if you set about me I can't jump over the gate and escape. .

[olaftab]

I knew he had potential, but did anyone have any inclination how good that potential was or how strong a ball runner he was going to be? He’s outrageous when he powers forward.

Well Ian none of us shire idiots did but The MAN who knows did and there we are.

[kipeye]

"Bulldozers with skill" is my go-to search term for pornography.

As long as they're good in different positions...

[Ads]

Is Bellingham better and if so, in what way?

I note the kid from Stourbridge hasn't scored yet, so even if the kid from Cradley Heath should have bagged 4 or 5 more, his shooting boots appear a bit more accurate.

Quite a bit of talent on that no9 bus route.

[Somniloquism]

Is Bellingham better and if so, in what way?

I note the kid from Stourbridge hasn't scored yet, so even if the kid from Cradley Heath should have bagged 4 or 5 more, his shooting boots appear a bit more accurate.

Quite a bit of talent on that no9 bus route.

He is playing more as a Rice / Onana type midfielder at the moment then a Palmer / Rogers. Still might have scored but when you have Mbappe / Vini Jr / Rodrygo up front, I doubt they would be looking at others rather then shooting themselves. This is not a statement that Bellingham is better then Rogers, just that for his club he has vacated the 10 role, and he should also for England which frees up a battle with Palmer or Foden for Rogers in the front.

[Accent Guy]

Is Bellingham better and if so, in what way?

Yes. Bellingham is a phenomenal player and will win the Balon D'or sooner or later. He makes that Real Madrid side tick and that is some achievement for any player, never mind for a lad so young.

If Rogers develops into anything like as good as him then we will have quite the player.

I think some people are getting ahead of themselves amongst the excitement. Let's let him develop and see what happens but comparisons to the best players in the world only serve to put more pressure on him.

Very good player mind, and I look forward to seeing him grow.

[Ads]

OK. In that ways is he better?

[LeeB]

I'll ask again for Ads, how is he better?

He made a good move (to Dortmund) and it's elevated his status. Yes, he hit the ground running last season and I'm not trying to claim he's shit, but he can't move with the ball like Rogers.

I know who I'd rather have.