I don't think even Emery expected him to be at this level yet. His rise has been nothing short of phenomenal. He didn't really stand out at Boro and the majority of them seemed OK with him leaving.
Paul, given what we know about how England operate I presume that was some kind of joke?
Quote from: LeeB on October 23, 2024, 04:20:09 PMPaul, given what we know about how England operate I presume that was some kind of joke?True, he'll obviously end up with well over 100 caps and about 10 good performances from them but I live in hope that Tuchel might actually care about picking a functioning team rather than just going for the biggest set of names he can fit together.
Quote from: paul_e on October 23, 2024, 04:33:34 PMQuote from: LeeB on October 23, 2024, 04:20:09 PMPaul, given what we know about how England operate I presume that was some kind of joke?True, he'll obviously end up with well over 100 caps and about 10 good performances from them but I live in hope that Tuchel might actually care about picking a functioning team rather than just going for the biggest set of names he can fit together.My take is that if Foden was playing for any one else he would not be getting anywhere near the England team. Has a few decent games get massively over hyped and is a player that few teams can accommodate.
Quote from: LukeJames on October 23, 2024, 03:34:52 PMI don't think even Emery expected him to be at this level yet. His rise has been nothing short of phenomenal. He didn't really stand out at Boro and the majority of them seemed OK with him leaving.Matty Cash did an interview recently where he talked about the pre-match meeting for the Middlesbrough game. He said basically the whole meeting was about Rogers. Emery obviously saw something in him that most didn't.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on October 23, 2024, 05:37:45 PMQuote from: paul_e on October 23, 2024, 04:33:34 PMQuote from: LeeB on October 23, 2024, 04:20:09 PMPaul, given what we know about how England operate I presume that was some kind of joke?True, he'll obviously end up with well over 100 caps and about 10 good performances from them but I live in hope that Tuchel might actually care about picking a functioning team rather than just going for the biggest set of names he can fit together.My take is that if Foden was playing for any one else he would not be getting anywhere near the England team. Has a few decent games get massively over hyped and is a player that few teams can accommodate.I'd bet that if he'd scored 28 goals last season and won Premier League Player of the Year for a different team instead of doing those things for Man City, he'd probably still be getting picked for England.
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on October 23, 2024, 06:56:12 AMQuote from: tomd2103 on October 23, 2024, 12:24:14 AMQuote from: Rudy Can't Fail on October 23, 2024, 12:15:40 AMQuote from: Risso on October 22, 2024, 11:57:12 PMThis lad is going to be a world beater, mark my words. Saw a great stat on Twitter, I hope it's true. Completed dribbles in the Champions League this year:Morgan Rogers - 16Man City - 14Yeah but it's all fluff until something happens from it. Love him but love the team more, he's a clog in the team, a beautiful one, absolutely by we need to take the next step. Admittedly it's taken us all, even Unai, by surprise, this wasn't supposed to happen until next season but as we're there, we're brilliantly developing the squad, why not follow the leader and start demanding more?Of course I understand why, the last 20 odd years have been generally shite with the exception of getting promoted. Pearls to pigs with MON, the tool struggled to win at Villa Park, ffs. Dean restored some pride and we'll always love him for that. Unai has come in, seen his surroundings, sensed the pure love from the Villa fans (nothing like the Tarquins at Arsenal), owners who are supportive, everything clicks into place.It will be interesting how far Morgan can grow. Right now he should count his lucky stars he's at a club like Aston Villa where as Cashy said, is on the up and with a manager that can help him develop. World beater? I'm a believer but he still has a lot to do. Right now I can't fault his attitude. I look forward to watching his development.He's done really well, but I agree that he just needs to sharpen that end product to really take that next step. I still maintain that if financial restrictions werent an issue and we could add a real top quality number 10 and right sided player to the current squad (say Salah and Bernado Silva), along with a RCB or RB option, we would be genuine title challengers. A real top quality number 10? What, to rotate with Rogers?It's a hypothetical scenario, as we can't afford it, but if you added a world class player at number 10 and out wide right at this time, I think we would be close to challenging for the title.I'm a big fan of Morgan Rogers and he has done really well since coming to us, but he's not quite the finished article just yet. He may well be soon, given the way he is going and could be good enough to take us there in the coming seasons.
Quote from: tomd2103 on October 23, 2024, 12:24:14 AMQuote from: Rudy Can't Fail on October 23, 2024, 12:15:40 AMQuote from: Risso on October 22, 2024, 11:57:12 PMThis lad is going to be a world beater, mark my words. Saw a great stat on Twitter, I hope it's true. Completed dribbles in the Champions League this year:Morgan Rogers - 16Man City - 14Yeah but it's all fluff until something happens from it. Love him but love the team more, he's a clog in the team, a beautiful one, absolutely by we need to take the next step. Admittedly it's taken us all, even Unai, by surprise, this wasn't supposed to happen until next season but as we're there, we're brilliantly developing the squad, why not follow the leader and start demanding more?Of course I understand why, the last 20 odd years have been generally shite with the exception of getting promoted. Pearls to pigs with MON, the tool struggled to win at Villa Park, ffs. Dean restored some pride and we'll always love him for that. Unai has come in, seen his surroundings, sensed the pure love from the Villa fans (nothing like the Tarquins at Arsenal), owners who are supportive, everything clicks into place.It will be interesting how far Morgan can grow. Right now he should count his lucky stars he's at a club like Aston Villa where as Cashy said, is on the up and with a manager that can help him develop. World beater? I'm a believer but he still has a lot to do. Right now I can't fault his attitude. I look forward to watching his development.He's done really well, but I agree that he just needs to sharpen that end product to really take that next step. I still maintain that if financial restrictions werent an issue and we could add a real top quality number 10 and right sided player to the current squad (say Salah and Bernado Silva), along with a RCB or RB option, we would be genuine title challengers. A real top quality number 10? What, to rotate with Rogers?
Quote from: Rudy Can't Fail on October 23, 2024, 12:15:40 AMQuote from: Risso on October 22, 2024, 11:57:12 PMThis lad is going to be a world beater, mark my words. Saw a great stat on Twitter, I hope it's true. Completed dribbles in the Champions League this year:Morgan Rogers - 16Man City - 14Yeah but it's all fluff until something happens from it. Love him but love the team more, he's a clog in the team, a beautiful one, absolutely by we need to take the next step. Admittedly it's taken us all, even Unai, by surprise, this wasn't supposed to happen until next season but as we're there, we're brilliantly developing the squad, why not follow the leader and start demanding more?Of course I understand why, the last 20 odd years have been generally shite with the exception of getting promoted. Pearls to pigs with MON, the tool struggled to win at Villa Park, ffs. Dean restored some pride and we'll always love him for that. Unai has come in, seen his surroundings, sensed the pure love from the Villa fans (nothing like the Tarquins at Arsenal), owners who are supportive, everything clicks into place.It will be interesting how far Morgan can grow. Right now he should count his lucky stars he's at a club like Aston Villa where as Cashy said, is on the up and with a manager that can help him develop. World beater? I'm a believer but he still has a lot to do. Right now I can't fault his attitude. I look forward to watching his development.He's done really well, but I agree that he just needs to sharpen that end product to really take that next step. I still maintain that if financial restrictions werent an issue and we could add a real top quality number 10 and right sided player to the current squad (say Salah and Bernado Silva), along with a RCB or RB option, we would be genuine title challengers.
Quote from: Risso on October 22, 2024, 11:57:12 PMThis lad is going to be a world beater, mark my words. Saw a great stat on Twitter, I hope it's true. Completed dribbles in the Champions League this year:Morgan Rogers - 16Man City - 14Yeah but it's all fluff until something happens from it. Love him but love the team more, he's a clog in the team, a beautiful one, absolutely by we need to take the next step. Admittedly it's taken us all, even Unai, by surprise, this wasn't supposed to happen until next season but as we're there, we're brilliantly developing the squad, why not follow the leader and start demanding more?Of course I understand why, the last 20 odd years have been generally shite with the exception of getting promoted. Pearls to pigs with MON, the tool struggled to win at Villa Park, ffs. Dean restored some pride and we'll always love him for that. Unai has come in, seen his surroundings, sensed the pure love from the Villa fans (nothing like the Tarquins at Arsenal), owners who are supportive, everything clicks into place.It will be interesting how far Morgan can grow. Right now he should count his lucky stars he's at a club like Aston Villa where as Cashy said, is on the up and with a manager that can help him develop. World beater? I'm a believer but he still has a lot to do. Right now I can't fault his attitude. I look forward to watching his development.
This lad is going to be a world beater, mark my words. Saw a great stat on Twitter, I hope it's true. Completed dribbles in the Champions League this year:Morgan Rogers - 16Man City - 14
Quote from: Dave on October 23, 2024, 05:48:43 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on October 23, 2024, 05:37:45 PMQuote from: paul_e on October 23, 2024, 04:33:34 PMQuote from: LeeB on October 23, 2024, 04:20:09 PMPaul, given what we know about how England operate I presume that was some kind of joke?True, he'll obviously end up with well over 100 caps and about 10 good performances from them but I live in hope that Tuchel might actually care about picking a functioning team rather than just going for the biggest set of names he can fit together.My take is that if Foden was playing for any one else he would not be getting anywhere near the England team. Has a few decent games get massively over hyped and is a player that few teams can accommodate.I'd bet that if he'd scored 28 goals last season and won Premier League Player of the Year for a different team instead of doing those things for Man City, he'd probably still be getting picked for England.That is the point, if he wasn’t playing for them he wouldn’t.
He's delivered far more than anyone, probably including Emery, could have ever predicted. At times he looks unstoppable & the comparison is with Dalian Atkinson aren't far off the mark. But he also has a lot to improve on, particularly his finishing. Also, he's relatively new at this level & teams will work on how to restrict him. But there's no better manager or club where he can continue his development.